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Report: NCAA looking into Oregon, trainers

Posted on: March 3, 2011 8:38 pm
Edited on: March 3, 2011 8:54 pm
Posted by Chip Patterson

On Thursday night a pair of reports released details regarding a probe related to Oregon's recruiting.  Charles Ronbinson, of Yahoo! Sports, released a report revealing details from Oregon's expenditure records, which included $25,000 to Will Lyles for recruiting services, and $3,747 to Baron Flenory, a trainer who runs the Badger Sports Elite 7-on-7 camps.  In an report, sources close to the probe said that NCAA officials were looking closely into the relationships between Oregon, highly-touted recruit Lache Seastrunk, and Lyles, his personal trainer and mentor.    

Obviously the most significant figure here is in regards to Lyles, who has considered himself a trainer and mentor to both Seastrunk and current Duck LaMichael James.  Schools often will pay for recruiting services (names, measurements, contact), but the dollar amount paid to Lyles does seem a bit high.

From the report
Oregon athletics department spokesman Dave Williford confirmed to on Thursday that Oregon paid Lyles $25,000 for his recruiting services. Oregon's payment to Lyles was made shortly after Seastrunk signed a national letter of intent in February 2010 to play football for the Ducks, choosing them over California, LSU and USC.
Your response, head coach Chip Kelly
"Most programs purchase recruiting services," Oregon coach Chip Kelly said Thursday. "Our compliance office is aware of it. Will has a recruiting service that met NCAA rules and we used him in 2010."
The Yahoo! report revealed more about Flenory's tie with Oregon.
Flenory said the payment to him was for a recruiting service that his company set up for Oregon. The package included names, birthdates and other info on potential recruits. Flenory said the package to Oregon was the only one ever sold by his company, because “we stopped doing it because the NCAA said recruiting services could no longer do camps on college campuses. Because we were running camps, we decided that was a better business for us than to sell the recruiting packages”
While the implications of these reports are juicy, it is merely smoke for now. If either man is found to be tied to the recruitment of players to the University of Oregon, the payment to them would be considered an NCAA violation.  If both men can prove they had no part in steering the players towards Eugene, then the Ducks dodged a bullet.  

What do you think?  Leave your response in the comment section below, and stay tuned to for more as this develops

Since: Nov 9, 2010
Posted on: March 4, 2011 11:21 am

Report: NCAA looking into Oregon, trainers

Try to wrap your head around this.  It's not necessarily the athlete's they're looking at but the way in which the PROGRAM got the athletes.  So yes, it is very plausible that the athlete received nothing, and thus is personally cleared, but the investigation is looking at the PROGRAM'S dealings.  In a nut shell, this amounts to a LIC investigation not so much a player eligibility investigation.  Nice try though.

Since: Sep 17, 2009
Posted on: March 4, 2011 8:59 am

Report: NCAA looking into Oregon, trainers

Nothing to worry about Oregon fans, simply have the two players named state to the NCAA that they had no knowledge of what their trainers/mentors were doing in regard to their recruitment!  It worked for Cam Newton and his Dad, why not use it here.  Precedent has been set!  The NCAA is a joke!!!

Since: Nov 9, 2010
Posted on: March 4, 2011 7:32 am

Report: NCAA looking into Oregon, trainers

Don't worry Oregon'll only get worse from here.  The problem that will drag out for Oregon is that the NCAA will look to see what all exactly did this recruiting service do, and if they did do anything in violation the university knowingly paid them.  Again, that said, welcome to the part truths and sensationalizing stories of BSPN, etc.  Haven't bothered to see what FoxSports has posted...nor will I bother.  Can always count on them copying/pasting with a few extra comments from BSPN.  Happy day.

Since: Apr 29, 2010
Posted on: March 4, 2011 2:51 am

Report: NCAA looking into Oregon, trainers

This is what Oregpn can expect moving forward from the NCAA and Pac 12. Neither would prefer to have the Ducks be the top team in the league because of the hit national TV ratings will take. Plus the local TV marketof Eugene and Portland is tiny. Big difference if top team is from LA, Bay area, Seattle or just about any other team except Ore St and Wash St. Don't take it personally Duck fans but $ is how the NCAA rolls. And with the new commish in the Pac 12 turning the league in to more of a business than ever that won't work in your political favor either. They will take a shot at you every time they can. This will be a blackmark with the NCAA at the very least and sanctions if it plays all the way out.

Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: March 4, 2011 12:39 am

Report: NCAA looking into Oregon, trainers

I don't see how anyone can prove these men had anything to do with recruiting these players.

Unfortunately the NCAA doesn't have to prove things.  Take it from a USC fan when you start winning you start getting investigated for everything.

Since: Jan 4, 2009
Posted on: March 4, 2011 12:07 am

Report: NCAA looking into Oregon, trainers

well im guessing its like a headhunters fee. if you help get them recruits like that, you should damn well be paid a lot of money. nothing wrong with that.

Since: Feb 27, 2008
Posted on: March 4, 2011 12:06 am

Report: NCAA looking into Oregon, trainers

So, let me get this straight.  The Ducks haven't done anything against the rules and the NCAA is not investigating the University, but may investigate these services.  Why, then, is ESPN running the headline "OREGON IN TROUBLE" and this website says "NCAA looking into Oregon" when they CLEARLY are not?  I don't see how anyone can prove these men had anything to do with recruiting these players.

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