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Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

Posted on: April 21, 2011 5:49 pm

Posted by Tom Fornelli

Last week Arizona State unveiled it's new football uniforms and school logo. As is always the case when a school or professional team comes out with a new uniform, some people liked it, and others didn't. I fell in the group that liked the new look of the Sun Devils' threads. However, that opinion is not shared by a fellow member of the city I call home, Chicago. It seems that there is one police officer in Chicago, Sergeant Kenneth Epich, who is more worried about how popular the new logo of his alma mater may become with area gangs.

And [Epich]'s convinced that it is a matter of time before what he described as a "large, violent, mostly Hispanic Chicago street gang" called Satan's Disciples adopts ASU's new athletic gear because of the new trident logo.

"The gangs adopt sports teams and wear their gear," Epich said. "The S.D.'s are going to adopt the (ASU) hat as their hat of choice just as soon as they see the first person wearing one."

Epich has been a member of Chicago's Area One Gang Enforcement unit for 25 years, and odds are, he's totally correct. The Satan's Disciples probably will adopt the pitchfork logo as one of their own, seeing that it already fits a pitchfork they use in their current insignia, and that Sun Devils share the same initials as Satan's Disciples. That's just the way life works with gangs, who often adopt the merchandise of sports teams to their gangs. Whether it's because of a logo, initials or colors.

That isn't going to change. Still, the best advice I can give to Sgt. Epich is to just shut up and deal with it. To make the claim that kids walking around Chicago with an Arizona State hat on just because they like it are going to get beaten up or killed is just misinformed and purposely misleading. I grew up as a Chicago White Sox fan in this city, and when the White Sox made the change to the current colors and logo they have now, their merchandise became a big hit amongst gangs as well.

Guess how many times I've been beaten up for wearing a Sox hat in this city? None. Neither will any other kid who is wearing a Sun Devils hat because odds are that little Johnny Suburbs isn't going to be walking through the neighborhoods where he might actually be confused for a rival gang member.

Really, what this all comes down to is the fact that Epich went to Arizona State and he doesn't like the idea of seeing gang members, the ones he's tasked with arresting every day, wearing clothes with Arizona State's logo on it. That's it. He's not worried about public safety, he's worried about his own image of his alma mater.

Had this been Duke adopting a similar logo, Epich would have never given it a second thought.


Since: Apr 25, 2011
Posted on: April 25, 2011 7:01 pm

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

Are we more worried about the gang issues or about the new colors and logo for ASU? I mean, gangs have been around for ages and many of the elite gangs don't even wear colors, because they are so sophisticated and prefer to be incognito. Instead, they wear suits and some may even be your neighbor, but you don't read articles about how suits will create gang violence.  Just research the Mexican and Italian Mafias.  Bottom-line is that a gang is going to exist regardless of what they wear, because it is an issue much deeper than what meets the eye. Gangs can wear pink and they will still be dangerous.  So in short, I do not think it's going to damage the image of ASU or link the school to any negative social groups. Unfortunately, people are still going to get beat up or die just like the poor guy did at Dodger Stadium, who was jumped for having SF Giants gear on. Ignorance is everywhere and it's an internal issue due to a dysfunctional background of these gang members. So maybe we all need to be less ignorant and more wise up.

Since: Apr 25, 2011
Posted on: April 25, 2011 12:53 pm

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

All gangs no matter where they are from always have and always will wear athletic hats and shirts. Theres nothing 1 cop from Cicago can do about it.

Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: April 25, 2011 12:09 pm

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

Make it the logo for a local police dispacth or unit and they gangs will have nothing to do with it.

Since: Feb 23, 2010
Posted on: April 25, 2011 1:59 am

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

Sterilize all felons and the problem will go away in time.

Since: May 12, 2008
Posted on: April 22, 2011 5:11 pm

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

I know this is just a meaningless article buried in the nether reaches of the site, but doesn't it at least deserve an author who doesn't misuse the word "its"? Take the apostrophe out in the first sentence, bunghole.

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: April 22, 2011 2:10 pm

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

It would be a lot easier if we got together and financed the gangs very own logos and athletic apparel.  That was officers like the one in the article could just drive around irradicating the nuisance

Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: April 22, 2011 10:56 am

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

Maybe Epich ought to be more concerned with getting these gang members off the streets than some college logo.  If the cops were not failing so badly in their efforts, this would not be an issue. 

Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: April 22, 2011 9:43 am

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

The reason why gamgs hijack so many team logos is because they are easily available.  In the greater Los Angeles area, they have used everything from L.A/Oakland Raider merhcandise to Chicago White sox merchandise, to Mickey Mouse merchandise.  I can easily see this happening to the new ASU logo.  ASU will just have to live with it.  Frankly, I think their new uni's are basically ugly, but so has their team effort been in the past few years, so maybe the two deserve each other.

Since: Apr 22, 2011
Posted on: April 22, 2011 1:04 am

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

Read his comments agian, only this time read carefully.
Epich is an ASU alum, and is simply voicing concern about the logo being highjacked by gangsters and thugs, that's all.

Since: May 21, 2009
Posted on: April 22, 2011 12:45 am

Arizona State's new logo could be gang favorite

I saw a guy on the news who robbed a bank and was wearing a yankees hat...uh oh , time to ban the yankee logo   Tongue out

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