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Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

Posted on: May 2, 2011 4:07 pm
Edited on: May 2, 2011 4:07 pm

Posted by Tom Fornelli

Willie Lyles has found his name in the headlines quite a bit in recent months as accusations about Lyles being a "street agent" and selling off players like Patrick Peterson and Lache Seastrunk have surfaced. Accusations that Lyles hadn't commented on publicly until he made an appearance on the Real Talk podcast with Fox Sports' Jason Whitlock. As you'd expect, Lyles denied all of the accusations during his hour-long interview.

“That was what was alleged and that was unequivocally false also,” Lyles told Whitlock about the rumors he offered Patrick Peterson to Texas A&M for $80,000. “That was never asked for. That type of conversation never happened.”

Lyles also addressed the Lache Seastrunk rumors that had Oregon paying him $25,000 for the running back before going on to say how everything has been blown way out of proportion.

“That is unequivocally false,” said Lyles. “(Lache) chose Oregon because he felt Oregon was the best fit for him. He liked the running backs coach, Gary Campbell, and he felt it was a good system and a good fit for him. (Lache) enjoyed the campus when he went on his visit and he enjoyed the people. He made the decision that was best for him.

“The sensationalism of (the scandal) just caught like wildfire. It’s one of those things when you are the smaller entity . . . it’s almost like it’s a David-vs.-Goliath battle. They know you don’t have the resources. They know you don’t have the things to fight that battle, so they feel that they can come out and say whatever they want about you at any point and time and you really don’t have the means to fight back. What I’m doing in this interview today is I really want to get my side of the story out there because one of the few things that I am left with is my name."

And I couldn't get through that quote without thinking about this quote from Marlo Stanfield (NSFW), not that I'm trying to compare Willie Lyles to a drug kingpin on a fictional television show. My point is that while they're two entirely different subjects, the premise is the same. This is Lyles' reputation and living being messed with here.

Of course, whether or not Lyles is being honest, that's for the NCAA to decide, not me.


Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: May 4, 2011 1:14 am

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

Using the term Slave is bigoted, selfrighteous and lazy. Try using those terms in your job and see how long you last. Don't walk away from moral attitudes then jump back in using the student for pay argument.
If a prospective student/athlete wants to play in a sport, for example volleyball then the University is abliged to pay what exactly? Baseball, smimming or diving?

It is easy to point at the real profit center for all these other sports and say these guys should get paid real dollars. The facts are in this scenario the rich will get richer.  The schools who can't afford to PAY athletes will have to either eliminate other sports or reduce the amount they spend. In any pay for scenario the only fair solution would be to regulate the amount the student/athlete gets to survive and continue to study and compete.



This article explains this better than I can. It's likely the student as the article stipulates lose money or have to make ends meet during the summer months... I would like to see the NCAA perhaps establish a higher stipend but again any amount will likely have adverse affects on those schools that can barely afford to field a team.

Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: May 3, 2011 4:27 pm

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

If Oregon paid Willie Lyles $25,000 for his consultant's fee and Texas A&M paid Lyles $80,000 for his consultant's fee, we have an established pay scale (which is about right based on how the BCS rates the conferences).

The NCAA, once the recruit does sign, once the recruit becomes a slave, will enforce rules that tell that slave what he will do going forward. Recruits sign whoever's dotted line they want to sign, to become their slave. Unlike the NCAA, Lyles, when advising a recruit, can't force him to do anything.

Why shouldn't a university be able to pay for a consultant, to be on staff, it wouldn't be any different than paying a coach.

Willie Lyles said Oregon or Texas A&M didn't offer him money (for a specific player) , he's probably being truthful. Oregon and Texas A&M may have paid Lyles for a specific service, like consulting. Consulting is a gainful employment, just like coaching in the NCAA is. Some coaches make more money than other coaches. Some consultants make more money than other consultants. . 

Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: May 3, 2011 3:00 pm

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

So in the situation TrueGrit who is paying those giving advice?  Is the student? 

See the student is not, the "slave owner" is for the right to "own" that slave.  And I am sorry that is against the rules.

Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: May 3, 2011 1:32 pm

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

consult: 1. to seek guidance or information from. have regard for in making plans; consider.

consultant: expert who charges a fee for providing advice or services in a particular field.

Why shouldn't a person, about to become a slave, be able to consult a consultant, to advise him or her, of where it would be the best place for them to become a slave?

And why shouldn't a consultant, who advises a person, get paid to provide that advice?

The NCAA rules mainly protect the NCAA. The NCAA has restrictive rules that are detrimental to the recruit once that recruit is attached/locked to an institution. There is no reason why a person about to become a slave shouldn't be able to get the best advice they can to make that slavery situation the best situation possible for oneself.

And a person, who provides advice to a recruit, who helps a recruit make a valuable choice for oneself, should be paid for their services just like a NCAA coach, who makes millions of dollars per year, is paid.

Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: May 3, 2011 12:34 pm

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

All those slave deserve reparations!

Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: May 3, 2011 11:03 am

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

It's amusing how the NCAA and their "slave-for-play" program picks and chooses who will make money in their system. And don't say, "What do you mean, these kids get food and housing, and a free education."

Like I said, it's amusing!

Since: Oct 16, 2006
Posted on: May 2, 2011 9:58 pm

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

lumpoco -- you are obviously just a casual fan

Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: May 2, 2011 9:37 pm

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

Well, if I'm not mistaken, LeGarrett Blount, Johnathan Stewart, Ontarrio Smith, Maurice Morris, and Rueben Droughns all within the last decade played some ball in the NFL.  LeMichael James isn't bad either. 

Historically, there is Ricky Whittle, Ahmad Raschad, and Derek Lovelle as well.  Seems like you need to do a little research before you make an arguement.

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: May 2, 2011 6:47 pm

Lyles calls accusations 'unequivocally false'

When people start to use the David versus Goliath argument you know they don't have a leg to stand on, they are up the river with a creek and all the other cliches that people use when "times are tough" and all that jazz. Lyles is talking way too much for an innocent person. Usually, if someone is accused of doing something wrong and it is false the accused is left speechless because he can't believe that someone would say something false about him. No, the fact that Lyles is running his mouth trying to explain why Seastrunk chose Oregon is utter nonsense. Everyone knows that if you want to be known as a top tier college running back you go to Cal or USC in the Pac 10 or some other conference. When was the last great running back to ever come out of Oregon? Yes, I am aware of Jonathan Stewart, but his career is still young and alot can happen to derail his greatness escpecially if he is stuck playing for the Panthers. What surprises me most is the talk concerning Patrick Peterson. The fact that this news did not come out until now only goes to show that you can break laws if you want...just be nice about it and people will forgive you or let it slide. 

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