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Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

Posted on: June 6, 2011 11:19 am
Edited on: June 6, 2011 11:23 am
 
Posted by Chip Patterson

West Virginia coach-in-waiting Dana Holgorsen has come under fire in recent weeks due to some local reports regarding alleged incidents at several casinos and race tracks. On Sunday, reports began surfacing (most notably from SB Nation's Smoking Musket) that have identified current head coach Bill Stewart as being one of the sources of the damaging reports.

On Monday morning the Charleston Daily Mail reported that Stewart's official separation agreement with the university (which has yet to be signed), has been tabled as the university investigates the entire football program for the source of "blatant inaccuracies" that were contributed to the damning reports about Holgorsen. Two high-placed sources at the school informed the Daily Mail that the Stewart's contract has been awaiting signatures for weeks, but no further work will be done in the deal until the internal inquiry is completed.

Chuck Landon, of the Huntington Herald-Dispatch had perhaps the most damning column. Assembling the stories of many different incidents, Landon repeatedly calling out Holgorsen for alcohol and gambling related issues. There are many different voices in this mess who believe that one of the main sources for Landon's column was Karen Stewart, Bill's wife.

There have been all kinds of reports of disarray within the West Virginia football program. While Oliver Luck has been busy getting beer sales approved at athletic events, the Mountaineer coaching staff looks far from united. For a team that has the talent coming back to win the Big East, news of unrest in the leadership positions comes at a poor time for West Virginia fans. As the school engages in this investigation, one thing is for sure: this is going to get messy.

Keep it here at the Eye on College Football for more on the West Virginia investigation as it develops.
Comments

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: June 7, 2011 5:03 pm
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

I believe most major college football programs are dirty. So if those schools are dirty and a player chooses to attend school in the hills of Morgantown over a top tier Big Ten, Pac 10, Big 12 or SEC school you think WVU is playing by the rules? Not a chance.

Bernie, I never said WVU was spotlessly clean, just that there is no dirt in this story.  Soap opera drama, sure.  But no dirt.  As for recruiting, I don't see WVU winning many recruiting battles against the big boys from the Big Ten and SEC.  But WVU does not have to win head to head battles against the elite programs in order to be successful.  The big boys can't take everyone, so WVU gets a lot of the good ones that are left over.  So WVU gets a lot of 3 star talent instead of 4 star talent, then coaches them up.  Just because you have a low opinion of Morgantown does not mean WVU is dirty in its recruiting.  Nor does it mean everyone shares your view.



Since: Oct 30, 2007
Posted on: June 7, 2011 4:27 pm
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

The Mountaineers don't have to cheat to recruit.  On top of that, as an LSU fan, you've seen your share of dirt.  So picking at WVU seems a bit hypocritical to me.
No doubt. LSU is as dirty as they come. The entire SEC, sans Vanderbuilt is dirty. You have to be to compete in the SEC.  I believe most major college football programs are dirty. So if those schools are dirty and a player chooses to attend school in the hills of Morgantown over a top tier Big Ten, Pac 10, Big 12 or SEC school you think WVU is playing by the rules? Not a chance. There are boosters everywhere. If everything was equal, by the book and fair, a florida team would never lose a game.




Since: Oct 30, 2007
Posted on: June 7, 2011 4:21 pm
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

Bernie, maybe I'm missing something here, but how do you make the connection between this story and WVU being dirty?  There is nothing in the story that resembles cheating.  A soap opera maybe, but not cheating.  As for Morgantown, it is a small, University oriented town about an hour's drive from a major metropolitan area.  That would make Morgantown a lot like Athens, GA, Gainesville, FL, South Bend, IN, and hordes of other successful college football programs.  You talk about it being in the middle of nowhere, but it is actually far closer to your old hometown of Pittsburgh that State College is.  Happy Valley is in BFE.  Most college coaches consider their primary recruiting region to be a 300 mile radius around their school.  If you draw that circle around Morgantown, you will find an enormous recruitng base.  It does not matter that WV has a relatively small population.  WVU recruits well from OH, PA, MD, NY, NJ and VA, and find kids in Florida just like many other schools.  The Mountaineers don't have to cheat to recruit.  On top of that, as an LSU fan, you've seen your share of dirt.  So picking at WVU seems a bit hypocritical to me.


I realize it's just a soap opera. Bill Stewart has never been anything more than a pawn. But WVU does cheat regardless of the lack of coorelation. Rich Rod was a cheater. I doubt Stewart has the stones to cheat so I'm sure someone else is doing the dirty work.

Sure there are big time programs that are located in smaller college towns. But look at those teams you mention. They are elite programs with a long tradition in power conferences who consistantly schedule games vs. top teams (Confernce and OOC). The Big East is far from being a power conference. Do you really thing WVU compares to Georgia, Florida and Notre Dame when it comes to recruiting, location, history etc? Didnt think so.

WVU does get a few florida kids. The majority are the ones that are passed over by other teams due to character issues.

On another tangent

WVU fans think that the big conferences will want them when the Big East is culled. WVU is a logistical nightmare. Flying into Pittsburgh and traveling two hours through the snow covered hills to get to Morgantown is a far cry from flying into jacksonville and taking a short bus ride to Gainsville. I'm shocked LSU agreed to a home and home. At least they scheduled it early in the season when the small weather window in WV is more desireable for football than Baton Rouge



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: June 7, 2011 4:04 pm
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

Grow up, and quit with the "responding in kind" excuse, because you are the one who keeps lowering the bar.  Only an azzhole picks on others to make themselves feel better about their own sorry existence.  Try not to be one.
Why did you just do what you said you don't like others doing?  Grow up indeed.  Pot, meet kettle.  You really shouldn't pick on others typ make yourself feel better.  Try not to do that okay?



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: June 7, 2011 1:40 pm
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

The University, students and fans are disrespected because.....It's West Virginia. I understand they have to run a dirty program to compete. How else can the Univ get decent recruits to want choose the hills of WV over much more desirable locations? Sure they take the bottom feeders with character issues and the cast offs out of necessity. The NCAA isn't stupid. They realize WVU has to cheat. I'm sure they cut them a little slack to make up for the fact that Morgantown is a dump in the middle of nowhere. But the media. Don't expect them to cut anyone some slack.

Bernie, maybe I'm missing something here, but how do you make the connection between this story and WVU being dirty?  There is nothing in the story that resembles cheating.  A soap opera maybe, but not cheating.  As for Morgantown, it is a small, University oriented town about an hour's drive from a major metropolitan area.  That would make Morgantown a lot like Athens, GA, Gainesville, FL, South Bend, IN, and hordes of other successful college football programs.  You talk about it being in the middle of nowhere, but it is actually far closer to your old hometown of Pittsburgh that State College is.  Happy Valley is in BFE.  Most college coaches consider their primary recruiting region to be a 300 mile radius around their school.  If you draw that circle around Morgantown, you will find an enormous recruitng base.  It does not matter that WV has a relatively small population.  WVU recruits well from OH, PA, MD, NY, NJ and VA, and find kids in Florida just like many other schools.  The Mountaineers don't have to cheat to recruit.  On top of that, as an LSU fan, you've seen your share of dirt.  So picking at WVU seems a bit hypocritical to me.



Since: Feb 27, 2011
Posted on: June 7, 2011 10:43 am
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

It appears that Bitter Bill Stewart is not going quietly into that good night..



Since: Oct 30, 2007
Posted on: June 7, 2011 10:13 am
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

It appears Bernie has never watched "Swamp People", proof positive that he is into hypocritical stereotypes.  As for being relevant, funny how LSU was darn fortunate to eek out a win over WVU in Tiger Stadium.

I've seen swamp people. The Cajuns are basically swampy hillfolk. I'm not even going to try and defend them. Keep in mind I'm from Pittsburgh and actually attended WVU before transfering to a much better school (LSU). So I understand WVU, the fan base and the University. WVU fans have a chip on their shoulder. Always have. The University, students and fans are disrespected because.....It's West Virginia. I understand they have to run a dirty program to compete. How else can the Univ get decent recruits to want choose the hills of WV over much more desirable locations? Sure they take the bottom feeders with character issues and the cast offs out of necessity. The NCAA isn't stupid. They realize WVU has to cheat. I'm sure they cut them a little slack to make up for the fact that Morgantown is a dump in the middle of nowhere. But the media. Don't expect them to cut anyone some slack.



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: June 7, 2011 8:48 am
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

What the hell is a waerboy?  Does everyone see the dangers of inbreeding now?  We have New Orleans, the most cosmopolitan city in America, and you don't even have electricty yet.  Our cousins don't kiss, yet you ddo have sex with your Dad.  Nasty Black Lungers.  Do you guys burn the couches to kill the TB spores?

Does Harlan county have running water yet?  Because as of, and this is an absolute fact, 1977 you didn't.  How does it feel to know you are less developed than Iran?  Swells you with pride doesn't it.  It is sad about that poor guy who got arrested for smuggling books into the state however.

Does anyone know where I can rent waerboy?  And how do you even know what a movie is?  This is truly too easy.


Skreffty, of course it is truly too easy to make up BS.  Way to keep it classy.  What does Harlan County have to do with any of this, my geographically challenged friend?  Harlan County is in Kentucky.  Just so you know, that is a different State.  Sort of like blaming Louisiana for some backwards place in Mississippi.  Grow up, and quit with the "responding in kind" excuse, because you are the one who keeps lowering the bar.  Only an azzhole picks on others to make themselves feel better about their own sorry existence.  Try not to be one.



Since: Jun 7, 2011
Posted on: June 7, 2011 4:45 am
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

Well the story makes WVU Football look bad, at least the comment section is showing LSU's finest.




Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: June 7, 2011 12:55 am
 

Report: West Virginia investigating leaks

Yes skreff, I know what you meant couches, but I always find it funny when someone posts an overt insult of someone else and they misspell it.  Your response was basically an attempt to put down West Virginia, so I offered a contrary, I'm sure you could have figured that out :)

Your point was we had to throw out our trip to Baton Rouge, therefore the body of work would be that we never travel down south.  I was simply pointing out that was not the case.  Your listing out of schedules looks pretty comparable to me,so not sure what your point was there.  Conference schedules are what they are, you won't hear me arguing the Big East is stronger in football, although WVU has fared very well against the SEC starting with a Sugar Bowl win over Georgia IN Georgia in 2005, but you mention that was not of note.  The Big East went through a complete overhaul when Miami, VT, and BC left, so the schedule would not have many attractive matchups.  You listed Marshall as yours in 2008??

Lastly, the NC game was in Atlanta last year, not far travel for an LSU squad IMO.
Again, no, I clearly stated outside of the LSU trip that you don't travel.  Do you understand what "a wash" is?  You did however state that the SEC doesn't come up North, and then I point out three teams from the SEC no less, that have come just to your place to play.  I wonder why you left that out of this post? 

Look, I don;t like the stereotype thing as I said.  But I am not above responsing in kind as I just did to some of your state's younger posters.  It was fun, but lets keep it in perspective that I responded and didn't initiate.

Other than against us, I wish you well this year.


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