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Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

Posted on: July 22, 2011 9:52 pm
Edited on: July 22, 2011 10:18 pm
 
Posted by Bryan Fischer

Mark Emmert, you have lost our confidence in your ability to do the job.

The next time you speak, we won't be able to take you seriously thanks to news that Ohio State would not face additional charges of failure to monitor or lack of institutional control in the school's infraction case.

'It's all about what the NCAA can prove, not what we've read' is the company line. Well, you had a chance to prove things but you said you weren't going to try.

CBSSports.com took a thorough look at cheating in college football, spending nine days chronicling just how rampant the rule breaking has been over the years. The purpose was the examine the subject with an eye towards where the sport was headed in the near future.

Senior writer Dennis Dodd ended the series saying Ohio State would be a landmark case going forward.

"This is what NCAA president Mark Emmert has been advocating, a way to make the cheaters and liars think twice about cheating and lying," Dodd wrote.

The president failed, however, to send that message Friday. Emmert has called for tougher enforcement numerous times since taking office and here, in front of a primetime audience, was his Howard Beale moment.

He could have sent a message that he was mad as hell and wasn't going to take it anymore. Instead, he lost what little confidence we had in "fixing" college athletics.

Dennis Thomas, the chairman of the Committee on Infractions, said on a conference call earlier this month that the committee "was not in the business of sending messages."

Sorry to say it, but the NCAA's enforcement staff and the Committee on Infractions are in the business of sending messages.

They sent one loud and clear: It's ok to cheat. Blame it on the coach if you get caught. No need to monitor emails either.

But you better check on that house 100 miles away.

Emmert has talked about openness and a better understanding. The organization invited several members of the national media to Indianapolis for what they called the "Enforcement Experience."

The aim of it, as Vice President for Enforcement Julie Roe Lach explained to compliance officers from across the country, was for a good number of positive pieces and to remind everybody that the NCAA and the Committee on Infractions are separate.

Last I checked though, the enforcement staff reports to the president. If Emmert wanted to push for a message, a simple walk down the hall could have resulted in serious charges against Ohio State.

According to interview transcripts, Jim Tressel mentioned an email tip to school compliance officers but failed to mention what was actually in the emails. The compliance office - or anyone else for that matter - failed to follow up on this. Yet the NCAA enforcement staff said the school "followed up on tips it received."

The school said they only found out about the emails in January "due to an unrelated legal matter." Ask Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany though and he'll tell you it was due to a FOIA request.

Appears no one, not even one of the most powerful people in the country, could get an accurate answer from the Buckeyes.

At one point in an interview, Tressel told the NCAA that Ohio State told him to get rid of documents so they wouldn't become public record.

The folks at Enron are very impressed.

If the committee can nail USC based on a two minute, thirty-two second phone call, they surely could nail Ohio State with all that.

Ohio State was lauded by many as having a large and well respected compliance office. Yet both the NCAA and Ohio State agreed in December that their education efforts were inadequate. That was the basis for allowing the so-called "Buckeye Five" to play in the Sugar Bowl.

So Ohio State didn't do a good job at rules education in December but by July, according to the case summary, the institution "provided education to football student-athletes and staff regarding extra benefits and preferential treatment."

That statement was contradicted by the enforcement staff five paragraphs later by the way.

"The institution took monitoring efforts designed to identify the sale or distribution of institutionally issued athletics awards, apparel apparel and equipment," but somehow didn't know Terrele Pryor was taking "whatever" he wanted out of the equipment room.

And let's not forget the school's treatment of their beloved "Senator."

"This is an individual that I have tremendous respect for," University president E. Gordon Gee said of Tressel on March 8. "He's had great success in working with young people and we applaud that. But I think equally importantly, he's had great success in building the character and reputation for this university, which I'm entirely grateful for. He's done so by example."

A few months later in the Buckeyes' self-report: "The institution is embarrassed by the actions of Tressel."

At least the flip-flopping when they're backed into a corner is consistent.

There's still one more chance for the organization to say enough is enough. The committee could add a failure to monitor charge or lack of institutional control charge following Ohio State's August 12th meeting with them. The committee did it with Indiana in the Kelvin Sampson case but has rarely done so. It can also choose to punish the school harshly despite the two serious charges, as it did with Alabama several years ago in the Albert Means case. They can also cite the enforcement staff for doing a bad job, which they have also done on occasion.

"I fully expect that every NCAA member institution be held to the same high standards," Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said after USC's appeal was denied.

But based on everything that's happened so far with Ohio State, does anyone expect them to? Athletic director Gene Smith was the recent chairman of the NCAA Men's Basketball committee. Gee was Emmert's boss years ago at Colorado.

And even if the committee did hold them to those same high standards set in the USC case?

"I'll be shocked and disappointed and on the offensive, Smith told The Columbus Dispatch. "If I don't agree, we'll do everything we can to battle it and go through the appeals process."

Don't worry Gene, you've already won. Sorry Mark, you didn't.

After all, actions, Mr. Emmert, speak louder than words.

Comments

Since: Sep 7, 2010
Posted on: July 29, 2011 6:08 am
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

Most people forget to mention the BIG ONE.  


 -  USC football knowingly exceeded the coaching staff limit in 2008 by hiring an outside consultant.  (Pete Rodriquez).  They LIED about it to the NCAA causing them to get hit harder than what it would normally for a MAJOR VIOLATION.  

Result:  The Football Program, Athletic Dept., Compliance all received FAILURE TO MONITOR and lying to the NCAA resulted in harsher penalties.
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So glad you are up to speed on this issue.For 2 weeks he was hired as a special teams consultant. Never saw a kid never talked to a student/athlete. YES! It happened but only thing is USC self reported it (will be in old news articles google it) the NCAA signed off on it as a secondary. Only to bring it up and change the outcome of it illegally.



Since: Jun 1, 2011
Posted on: July 26, 2011 11:24 am
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

Most people forget to mention the BIG ONE.  


 -  USC football knowingly exceeded the coaching staff limit in 2008 by hiring an outside consultant.  (Pete Rodriquez).  They LIED about it to the NCAA causing them to get hit harder than what it would normally for a MAJOR VIOLATION.  

Result:  The Football Program, Athletic Dept., Compliance all received FAILURE TO MONITOR and lying to the NCAA resulted in harsher penalties.  




Since: Mar 25, 2008
Posted on: July 26, 2011 2:17 am
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

Actual list of infractions USC was charged with - compare these with the truth behind Ohio State, what little it was charged with, and how pathetic USC was and howthe disregarded so many rules and had perhaps the smallest and worst/sham compliance office since SMU - and you get the real picture. keep in mind that despite the sensationalism of the car issues at ohio state - it had documentation of all cars and no laws were broken, and it was ohio states compliance department that found the emails that tressel hid/didnt report (where usc was cited for not monitoring such things). when you really truly read the facts its a) amazing these journalists/bloggers on these major sports sites DONT do that, and b) obvious as to how and why things are shaking out this way.

The NCAA charged USC with...

18 violations with Reggie Bush including…

- relationships with several agents
- multiple cash payments
- a house for Bush’s parents
- a car outfitted with rims and a stereo system
- free airfare
- paid hotel stays
- free limo service
- free meals
- free auto repair
- free clothing
- free furniture
- free home appliances
- free professional training sessions.

12 violations with OJ Mayo including…

- relationship with an agent’s runner
- cash payments
- free plane tickets
- free meals
- free professional training sessions
- merchandise
- free cell phone and he didn’t have to pay the bill
- a free TV
- other gifts and favors


USC SPECIFIC VIOLATIONS INCLUDE...

- Lack of staff in the compliance department (1 person plus an intern for the entire university)
- Lax regulations on the sidelines (allowance of agents and boosters)
- Lax regulations in the locker room (allowance of agents and boosters)
- Todd McNair cited for lying during the investigation
- Todd McNair knew or should have known about Reggie Bush
- Failure to monitor athletic department phone and email
- Failure to monitor and record vehicle registrations
- Failure to monitor student athlete’s summer employment
- Failure to monitor student athlete’s relationship with employers
- Failure to monitor contact with football boosters
- Failure to monitor the use of a consultants violating rules governing the number of coaches allowed





Since: Nov 12, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:55 pm
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

Jag,

Great article!!!   It is well documented that Dodd writes based upon personal opinions rather than researched facts.  He is the difference between a sports journalist and a sports blogger. 

Instead of reading the NOA, he quoted Brooks.  Instead of looking at the actual facts, he made up LIES. 

You know what is really sickening.  Dennis Dodd destroyed a good man's reputation, for what?  He did it for his own benefit.  Karma will get Dennis Dodd.  I feel sorry for him.  




Since: Oct 10, 2009
Posted on: July 25, 2011 10:30 pm
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

@jagstyles--Nice article.  It would be nice for that to be posted to a blog here and force the CBS writers to have to comment on it.  This whole story has taken on a life of its own, far beyond the reality of what happened.  From the checks to the cars, this has been reported on as poorly as anything I have ever seen, and I am not just talking about CBS

I posted this well written essay on Dodd's lastest attempt at a blog.  He immediately DELETED it.  Only proves that Dennis Dodd is a coward along with being a hack.  CBS should fire this fool for his LIES and for ruining the reputation of many young 18 - 22 year old kids - who are doing the right things in life.  That's right, Dennis Dodd has been attacking kids with his lies, fabrications, and opinions.  I am so mad, I might climb through this computer and smack him upside his bald head and knock some sense in him. 


    <=   COWARD






Since: Jun 19, 2011
Posted on: July 25, 2011 7:35 pm
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

skretty you are friggin incredible, let me refresh your memory,
lol, skretty you are way to much. you atake an accusation ignore what you dont want to talk about, throw out five other baseless accusations then defend what is basicly undefendable by trying to compare what lsu did with what osu did. sorry lsu self fined iself but no word yet from the ncaa as to whether they will accept teh self fining. the whole story is not yet out on lyles and his dealings with lsu. but seems ito me that not that long ao lsu was  severly hit with punishment, and if they get hit again, they might get the death penalty. talk your way around that one. you should be a politicain, nothing that comes from you can be beleived at all, but you insist on trying to do more digging for your hole.
And yet I am the one presenting facst and examples while those, like you, who disgaree, refuse to do so.  Apologists everywhere...

And no, LSU was not hit hard recently in football - where do you get this stuff?  Credibility = zilch...maybe you shoudl run for office.  You lie, conjecture, and get the facts wrong and then just keep on talking.  Did Michelle Bachmann go to Ohio State by any chance?



skrtty you have NEVER addressed a fact, all you do is endlessly regurgitate facts all proven to be not true, stomp your big ol feet and threaten to have a hissy fit if no one listens to your drivel anymore. look admits fact, you came here to insult and sew discord. sad that those are probably your only two talents in life. I would be dismayed if I was as hate filled and bitter as you. maybe what you need is to stop insulting and tearing down and see a shrink you dont want to admit your school has problems and yet you are here bashing when osu problems are mostly solved. the ncaa wont listen to you, your hometown newspaper wont listen to you, fox news wont listen to you, we only respond to you because your statements are so completely biased and over the top in hatred that we really enjoy laughing at you and what you say. guess what? all your foaming at the mouth and lame attacks will not hurt osu this season one lil bit, not on the field and not in front of the ncaa, a place that lsu will sonn be. you wont mind if i come and bash lsu when they get hit with sanctions. hey cheer up bucky, wipe the drool from your chin and the tears from your eyes, let out a big beer fart and tell your sister/wife to get you another one. we will always have you here as our class clown....the i dotters salute you...with one finger.



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2011 6:55 pm
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

@jagstyles--Nice article.  It would be nice for that to be posted to a blog here and force the CBS writers to have to comment on it.  This whole story has taken on a life of its own, far beyond the reality of what happened.  From the checks to the cars, this has been reported on as poorly as anything I have ever seen, and I am not just talking about CBS.  I expect the political media to speak with a serious slant as everyone has an agenda, but I expect more from sports as the truth always comes out in the end.  OK, not always, but normally.   



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: July 25, 2011 6:46 pm
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

Evidently, integrity is not the only thing that cannot be taught over the internet.  gobucks has made a strong case for reading comprehension and I must agree.  No matter how much time he spends on the internet reading, his comprehension skills are still pathetic.  I told no lies at any point.  I said that was the first time I commented on this thread, and it was.  There have been scores of articles related to this topic, and I have commented on many of them.  Tressel was a liar and the whole world knows it.  Some buckeye fans cannot accept this without wanting to know who else is in the gutter with them.  If I ever fell in the gutter, I would want out, but that is just me.  Well not just me as the administration at Ohio State agrees with me on that.  I still believe that there are honest people in the coaching profession. At least there have to be some that at least will not lie to the NCAA to the point that their careers are ended. 



Since: Oct 10, 2009
Posted on: July 25, 2011 6:12 pm
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

A Nation Enraged, or "How People Learned To Stop Thinking For Themselves and Let Others Do It For Them"
By Tony Gerdeman

That sound you heard on Friday afternoon was the simultaneous wailing of the collective horde of national writers as they were ceremoniously drenched with a bucket of humility, resignation and reality.

The NCAA told Ohio State that they found no new infractions and that a Failure to Monitor charge would not be coming. The opinion-givers melted into a puddle of pus and muck, all the while screaming “What a world! What a world!”

While the ultimate sanctions aren't known yet, it is doubtful that a postseason ban will be handed down, which is apparently the one penalty that writers had been praying for. Literally.

For months we have heard the speculation about what people should expect Ohio State's punishment to be, but it was always based on reports that never seemed to turn out to be very accurate.

There was oft-laughed about George Dohrmann piece in Sports Illustrated that labeled nine other Buckeyes as rule-breakers. Eight of those players were cleared. If batting .200 is considered the 'Mendoza Line', then .111 should be the 'Dohrmann Line'.

Dohrmann that the NCAA wouldn't grant his grand source "Ellis" anonymity, so Ellis chose not to talk to the NCAA because he feared retribution from Ed Rife.

Ironically, when Jim Tressel talked about fearing for his players' safety regarding Rife retribution, it was laughed off as a lie. But it turns out that this fear is a real and apparent thing, or else Ellis would have talked to the NCAA, and Dohrmann wouldn't have had to hide his source's identity in the first place.

At least Dohrmann acknowledges that being afraid of what Rife was capable of is a legitimate concern, even if he won't admit it.

Despite the firestorm leading up to it, the article was quickly and immensely panned. People should have remembered that - me included - when the next bit of news broke little more than a week later.

Sports gossip site Sports by Brooks reported, and confirmed his own report, that the that were given to Terrelle Pryor as payment for signing memorabilia.

The next day, Dan Wetzel with Yahoo! took that bit of news and wrote a piece entitled .

In the piece, Wetzel cites two main reasons why Ohio State was worse than USC. The first being that Pryor was receiving checks.

"It’s the proof that the school, and its highest leaders, not only failed to monitor the behavior of its star athletes, but even when tipped off by federal authorities of a major scandal, failed to find out what was actually going on."

The second bit of "reasoning" was that USC didn't find out about Reggie Bush's violations until after he was gone. Ohio State found out about Pryor's violations while he was still in school, and somehow that's actually worse than NOT finding anything while the kid is still in school.

Isn't the fact that Ohio State found out about infractions proof of monitoring, and not LACK of it? Whereas USC let Reggie Bush finish playing before acknowledging his wrongdoing. I don't see how this can be debated.

With the NCAA coming out and saying that they have found no new violations, it would seem to reason that Sports by Brooks was wrong when he said, and confirmed, that the NCAA had checks in Pryor's name, and if there are no checks, then Wetzel's premise was just an exercise in conclusion jumping - and guessing wrong.

Wetzel is an incredibly-respected writer and reporter, and so for him to write something like this tells you a little bit about the national perception. It's okay to be wrong as long as everybody agrees with what you're writing.

Even though we don't know what the final punishment will be, rest assured that a lot of people have been wrong about this.

It's not hard to see why when you have logic failures like this on Friday night:

"It's clear from this non-finding that the enforcement model is beyond broken. How does this deter any coach from doing the same?"

Jim Tressel lost his job, and somewhere north of $20 million dollars. How's that for a deterrent?

Many folks responded to Dodd with just such a comment. As you would expect, he chose not to respond, because he would have to admit he was wrong, and that's something a lot of people have a hard time doing. That's why we saw so much rage on Friday.

Dodd, and others, on the back of this decision are calling for the NCAA enforcement practices to be , , , , and possibly even .

Back in May, the NCAA invited media members to attend a mock enforcement session. Here's an interesting point made by about attending that session:

"In each case, there are layers of rules, nuance and policies to be understood. We as a society largely don't have the attention span or interest to follow along."

No kidding. Nor do most writers, apparently.

ESPN's Pat Forde, he of the notion that Ohio State's self-imposed sanctions were akin to , also attended the session. Here's what he wrote:

"They want us to write nice things about the enforcement process, of course, and we will, because enforcement director Julie Roe Lach and her staff deserve it after lifting the curtain on the most controversial and misunderstood thing the NCAA does. The association is gradually emerging from decades of bunker mentality in which it was secretive about everything - especially enforcement - and this was another step forward in that regard."

Wetzel took part in the session as well, and had :

"Fans would feel reassured knowing people such as this are trying to keep college football and basketball in line. Most cries from the public demand stronger sanctions (as long as they are consistently applied). The committee on infractions says the same thing."

How things change.

I believe these people wouldn't be so angry if they had taken some time to do some research that didn't . But let's be honest, innuendo and rumor is so much easier.

Research takes a lot of work. Researching past sanctions over the took me the better part of an entire weekend.

There is really no reason for a national writer to do that kind of work because it's easier just to write what you think, as opposed to what others know.

Our job is to cover Ohio State. Their job is to talk about college football. Can you see the difference?

The problem starts when opinion is laundered into fact. It starts out as one thing, passes through several hands, and somehow comes back as science.

When you add that in with bad reporting, like Sports by Brooks saying that the Ohio State sanctions will be like the Baylor basketball sanctions, which saw them barred from playing any non-conference games, things tend to get a little out of control.

Yet this information is consumed like tin cans in an old man's goat field.

Writers dug themselves a hole when they lumped Ohio State together with USC and held the two in constant comparison.

USC held the NCAA at bay while Ohio State invited them in. USC violated 31 bylaws. Ohio State violated five. The similarity stops at the fact that both five and 31 are prime numbers, yet people cling to the two schools like a lifeboat.

The national writers can continue to pretend to be upset as long as they like. It will actually give them something to write about, meaning they're not really all that upset about the situation.

In the end, I contend that if more people had done actual research, they wouldn't be surprised at the current direction the sanctions are heading.

We have tried to put things as , because that's what the invested reader wants and deserves.

I certainly contend that our readers shouldn't be surprised with Friday's announcement, especially given that this is what we've been saying is likely to happen for a while now.

It may pay to be reactionary, but after a while it costs you your credibility. I guess that's why it's just easier to attack the entities that made it happen in the first place.

Don't be angry at the NCAA, be angry at the people who did your "research" for you. Then be angry at yourself for running with it like a baton on the anchor leg.

It's okay to admit when you're wrong, but as I said earlier, as long as people agree with you, you can be wrong seven days a week and people will still nod like they have never seen truth presented in such an amazing way.

Even when writers are wrong, the only thing that matters are mouse clicks and papers bought.

Remember, there are no sanctions for writers being wrong, only for being ignored.




Since: Aug 15, 2006
Posted on: July 25, 2011 5:28 pm
 

Emmert's chance to shine doused by Ohio St. case

What lil initial problem are you talking about?  Is it a problem that I post on this site and have talked about this issue? Too bad!
Then you admit to lying... Way to complete you hypocrisy circle... Well done!

Unlike you gobucks, I am not a puppet for my team. When LSU screws up, I am right there to call them on it.  We are currently on probation because of a screw up.
Seriously, you need to work on your own reading and comprehension skills. You haven't been doing that lately. Re-read my post below. (holy crap, this guy is dense!)

People cannot learn integrity over the internet.
and you're not helping one bit with this preacher rant... Just sayin'. You are all talk with zero substance.. If you had any, you'd be able to tell where you are wrong here.....


Coaches report minor violations all the time. Heck, Ohio State was famous for it.  For whatever reason, Tressel lost his mind and his integrity over this issue.
I thought you already knew why he did it? You've seemed quite well adapt to attack him numerous times on numerous threads. Why stop with this sentence?!

I would hope that Miles has never covered up a violation, ever.
Lastly, this gem... How special a comment in the world of make believe... Live in your bubble and throw darts. Let me know how it all turns out.


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