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Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

Posted on: August 12, 2011 1:52 pm
Edited on: August 12, 2011 2:17 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

Here's a helpful tip to anyone that may be hired by Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy to work around Gundy's home in Stillwater: don't show up on the first day of work wearing an Oklahoma shirt.

On Thursday Brent Loveland filed a lawsuit in Payne County alleging that after he was hired to work on Gundy's new home, he was fired for wearing an Oklahoma shirt to the job. Loveland, a trim specialist, is seeking damages in excess of $10,000 as he claims he lost out on $30,000 in potential income by turning down other work so that he could take the job at Gundy's house.
The suit states that Mike Gundy and Loveland verbally agreed in February that Loveland would perform trim installation at an overall payment of $80,600. The alleged confrontation occurred on what would have been Loveland’s first day on the job.

According to the suit, Gundy approached Loveland and said, “How dare you come into my house and offend my wife?” The states that when Loveland asked what Gundy was referring to, the coached replied by saying, “That (expletive deleted) shirt you have on.”
Loveland claims that he got dressed in the dark that morning and wasn't even aware that the shirt he put on had an Oklahoma logo on it. Which, in my opinion, is a bit laughable. Even if he didn't notice the shirt when he first put it on, he had plenty of time to notice once he left his dark room and made his way to Gundy's house. I'm thinking Loveland knew exactly what he was doing when he put the shirt on, but that he just didn't think he would be fired for wearing it.

Gundy wouldn't comment on the lawsuit, but his lawyer did release a statement for him.

“While I cannot discuss the specifics of pending litigation," said the statement, "I deny the allegations being made and welcome the opportunity to fully resolve the matter.” 

Hat tip: Kegs 'N Eggs

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2011 7:00 pm

Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

Anyone bringing up the first amendment on this post needs to seriously read a history book.  The first amendment in the Bill of Rights, along with the rest of the constitution. only apply to GOVERNMENT ACTIONS....not the actions of private citizens.  The coach might be a government employee but he was dealing with a contractor in his private house.  There is no freedom of speach issues in PRIVATE situations.  The contractor was not harmed by government action because he got fired.  He might be able to collect on an issue of a contract violation but his right were not violated because the coach was acting like a citizen.  Granted, he is acting like a complete child but what else can you expect from a football coach?

Since: Aug 5, 2011
Posted on: August 13, 2011 6:47 pm

Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

I believe if I were a contractor who had been fired for wearing an opposing teams colors to a job should approach this as an equal opportunity suit; who cares that it is not an ethnic, gender, sexual persuasion issue.  I would say it is a cultural issue, that being of the redneck order, which is apparent as Gundy immediately fell back on his chivalrous background defending his wifes feelings.  Gundy is a tool and a joke living a fourth class life in a third rate state.  I personally cannot stand either program so when they are both discovered to have violated recruiting, grade tampering, and performance enhancement rules I will further laugh at their lack of any sort of class.  I love redneck noise and am really looking forward to viewing any replies defending either school or the state itself.  To those supporting Gundy I appreciate your point of view, however misguided, and hope each of you hold your freedom of speech in a special should be ripped out of your greasy mitts.

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: August 13, 2011 6:39 pm

First Amendment?

I would like to cordially invite all of you who have cited the First Amendment to walk into your boss's office on Monday morning and telll him or her exactly how you really feel about the company you work for, and the performance of your boss.  After all, you're "protected" by the First Amendment, right?  You have the right to say whatever you want.  Your boss has the right to fire you.  The twain often meet, as they did at Gundy's house.  Both parties exercised their rights.   
Really, though, the First Amendment isn't meant to address situations like this; it was meant to provide citizens the ability to speak freely about politics and religion without the fear of censorship.  It's really an insult to our forefathers to trivialize the First Amendment so much as to say it applies in a personal squabble between a carpenter and a former customer.
Make no mistake, that's all this is: a personal disagreement between two people.  It doesn't belong in court, and the First Amendment doesn't deserved to be cited as justification for this frivilous litigation. 

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: August 13, 2011 6:19 pm

Great to see some passion

The contractor got exactly what he deserved.  As for his suit, the old adage still applies: a verbal contract is as good as the paper it's written on.  It's a nuisance suit: the only people who make any money on it will be the attorneys.  It's like wearing a Gators shirt in Tallahassee, a Spartans shirt in Ann Arbor, or a Bama shirt in Auburn: the contractor needs to be a professional and apply common sense.  Now, he might as well just apply his choice of lubricant, because it's going to be "rough sledding" for him to not spend even more money on the attorney as he loses the case.

Since: Sep 22, 2007
Posted on: August 13, 2011 5:27 pm

Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

This is what I love about the new Texas law, you lose you pay. Everything looks different when two attorney fees are at stake. Gundy should move to Texas.

Since: Sep 1, 2009
Posted on: August 13, 2011 5:23 pm

Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

Leave Gundy out of this.  Come after me - I'm 40! I'm a man!
Dirtbag contractor shouldv'e gotten his a$$ kicked first, then fired.  I hope Gundy fights this because he will win.  Then, he can ask the court to award him his attorney's fees and costs and stick it to the scumbag loser.
And, for the record, I could care less about OU or OSU. 

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2011 4:37 pm

Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

Your really going to fire a guy, that you thought was worthy of earning $80k for trim work, for wearing a rival t-shirt?
People have been fired for less.

Since: Mar 13, 2008
Posted on: August 13, 2011 4:18 pm

Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

I would have fired the guy too.

Since: Jul 17, 2011
Posted on: August 13, 2011 4:13 pm

Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

I think it was stupid to wear an OU shirt to his house, but it shows just exactly how childish and ignorant Gundy is. Your really going to fire a guy, that you thought was worthy of earning $80k for trim work, for wearing a rival t-shirt? I understand being loyal to your school and feuling a rivalry, but if you base major decisions on the intense feelings a rivalry evokes your a loser. 

Since: Nov 14, 2007
Posted on: August 13, 2011 4:01 pm

Don't wear an OU shirt to Mike Gundy's house

to the free speech apologists. think of it this way. can you say anything you want to your employer? it doesn't work for everything

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