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SMU would like to join the Big 12

Posted on: August 25, 2011 11:28 am
Edited on: August 25, 2011 11:28 am
Posted by Tom Fornelli

While it isn't official, it's pretty much an accepted fact that Texas A&M will be leaving the Big 12 for the SEC at some point in the immediate future. Which means that the Big 12 is going to be down a school and looking for a replacement. Now, generally, any school that might have some interest in joining the Big 12 would go about things quietly. Schools would perform their due diligence under the cover of darkness, and through meetings at undisclosed locations.

Then there's SMU. SMU wouldn't mind being in the Big 12, and it's even willing to go to the Dallas Morning News to let the world know
SMU officials said the school’s future lies in joining a BCS conference, heightening a public stance on their desire to rejoin big-time college athletics during a meeting Wednesday with The Dallas Morning News editorial board.

“We are pushing for it,” SMU president R. Gerald Turner said. “We want the city to know we’re pushing for it. We need as much help as possible, even from non-SMU alums. We believe it’s good for Dallas.”

While the benefits of joining a BCS conference would be clear — including a boost in prestige and TV money — SMU would need to be convincing to appeal to a BCS conference.
Now, SMU isn't going Big 12 or bust. While the school says the Big 12 makes the most sense, they'd be willing to go elsewhere like TCU did in joining the Big East. Of course, the big question is, would a BCS conference want SMU?

Some pros for the school would be that it seems to be back on the verge of respectability again under June Jones, and it is located in Dallas, a nice television market. A potential drawback could be SMU's stadium, which currently only seats 32,000. However, there are plans to expand that to 40,000, and while that's not typical of the stadium sizes seen in the SEC and Big Ten, it's not too terrible compared to other Big 12 schools.

Baylor's Floyd Casey Stadium has a capacity of 50,000. It's also bigger than Robertson Stadium (32,000) that Houston, another school mentioned as a Big 12 replacement, currently plays in.

Since: Jun 18, 2010
Posted on: August 26, 2011 11:20 am

SMU would like to join the Big 12

No more schools from Texas unless your intent is to further push the rest of the "northern" schools out of the conference.

Since: Oct 23, 2009
Posted on: August 26, 2011 10:02 am

Rice would be better

SMU wouldnt be that great. they only have money. Only Rice is a better fit. The state of Texas has a complex. beyond Rice they should expand outside of Texas.

Since: Mar 17, 2009
Posted on: August 26, 2011 1:16 am

SMU would like to join the Big 12

" ...or call and see if  J. Sherrill wants to coach them back in the Big SWC." huh?? Lost me on this comment.

Since: Aug 20, 2011
Posted on: August 25, 2011 7:46 pm

SMU would like to join the Big 12

I would like to see them join the big 12 just to see them beat texas all the time

Since: Jan 17, 2007
Posted on: August 25, 2011 4:54 pm

SMU would like to join the Big 12

Ohtiger, while it's true that SMU hasn't been a big draw in football recently, that's largely been due to the death penalty.  If they sustain the moderate success they've achieved under Jones, that will change.  There are a lot of SMU alums in Dallas/FW that would love for the Ponies to return to relevance.  It would certainly be expedited by moving into the B12.

I sort of question the comment in the article that an expansion of the stadium to 40,000 is "close" to other Big-12 schools, though.  Picking out Baylor's 50K stadium (the next smallest in the B12) is still not really comparable, a 25% difference is not "close".  Outside of UT's 100k stadium, the other B12 schools average just over 60k, so the proposed expansion will still be only 2/3 of the average B12 stadium.  They probably should expand to 50K, or at least commit to doing it as a requirement to join the B12.  Otherwise, they might as well leave it alone, they probably won't need the expansion if they stay in CUSA.

Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: August 25, 2011 4:32 pm

SMU would like to join the Big 12

Try and get SMU, TCU, Houston and Rice back in from the old SWC.  You say that SMU adds no TV?  At least they draw some from the DFW market.  T Tech and Baylor bring what, WACO and LUBBOCK?  Recreate the old SWC w/o  Texas A&M or call and see if  J. Sherrill wants to coach them back in the Big SWC.

Since: Nov 30, 2006
Posted on: August 25, 2011 2:39 pm

SMU would like to join the Big 12

Dan Beebe and his boss DeLoss Dodds probably DO want to shove SMU down the throats of the remaining Big 12 members.  Sure, it'd be great for SMU, but what do they bring to the picture?  Relatively zero in TV leverage & poor home football attendance.  Beebe and Dodds undoubtedly see them as an automatic win, making the conference path for the Longhorns easier, as well as another school that Texas can control.  Meanwhile, Texas wouldn't care that SMU gets the same share of conference revenues as the little nine.  Welcome to the SWC redux!

Since: Aug 25, 2011
Posted on: August 25, 2011 1:25 pm

SMU would like to join the Big 12

The correct word is "moot," knucklehead.

Since: Oct 7, 2007
Posted on: August 25, 2011 1:15 pm

SMU would like to join the Big 12

Fornelli, know what you are talking about... Vandy has smaller stadium than anyone in the Big 12 with 39,000. Northwestern's is smaller than any Big 12 stadium as well.

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: August 25, 2011 1:09 pm

SMU would like to join the Big 12

There is no downside whatsover for SMU joining the Big 12.  They are already in a small league.  Even if the Big 12 doesn't survive, a few years of collecting 12-14 million dollars instead of 1-2 million is not bad.  They would end up right back in a small league.  And if they show incredible promise during those few years, maybe someone picks them up over a K-state or Texas Tech.  I dont think the Big 12 is going away NOR do I think the Big 12 wants SMU so it is a mute point.

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