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Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

Posted on: August 29, 2011 7:01 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

The Big 12 has thrown out some big names for potential replacements, with perhaps none being bigger than the old conference expansion standby, Notre Dame. Unfortunately for the Big 12, if Notre Dame is the conference's Plan A for replacing Texas A&M, then it's already time to move on to Plan B.

In a talk with the American-Statesman's Kirk Bohls, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick repeated the same party line he's been repeating for years now. Notre Dame isn't interested in your conference.

“Our priority — and our clear priority — is maintaining our football independence and continuing to build our relationship with the Big East with our other sports,” said Swarbrick.

Sorry, Big 12, but it's not going to happen, and if you ever felt otherwise, you were just being foolish.

If Notre Dame was to ever decide that it wanted to join a conference, the Big Ten would be it's first destination. Not only has the Big Ten invited the school numerous times, but tradition wise, it just makes a lot more sense. The school has longstanding rivalries against three Big Ten schools already in Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue, so the transition wouldn't be that difficult to make.

Plus, even if Notre Dame wanted to join the Big 12, would it even make sense for the Big 12 to want Notre Dame in the fold? Think about it, one of the main reasons there is such unrest in the Big 12 in the first place is the preferential treatment many in the conference feel Texas gets, particularly with the new arrival of the Longhorn Network.

Well guess what Notre Dame has hopes of launching in the future? That's right, it's own network. So how would adding a second school that gets to play by its own rules help matters any? 
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Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: August 30, 2011 7:28 pm
 

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

the idiotic yet oft repeated assertion that the Irish pad their schedule with a bunch of weaklings, especially when the strength of schedule rankings show otherwise.
Yeah, it is said every year even by bragging that Kentucky has a tough schedule because they play teams like Tennessee, Old Maid, and Louisville or Minnesota because they play Purdue, UCLA, and Illinois as such a tough schedule. I have liked Georgia for years and will be the first to admit that other than Boise and possibly South Carolina (last year they were decent), they play no one of consequence and should win every other game easily--even the toothless Gators.



Since: Jan 6, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2011 4:54 pm
 

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12


I still don't like them, but I give them their due.  They don't play a bunch of creampuffs and waltz into a bowl game.



moonglum1 I have to say it is refreshing to find someone who dislikes Notre Dame but can still utilize rational thinking and recognizes that ND plays anything but a soft schedule.  It's okay if someone don't like Notre Dame.  But it annoys me to hear the idiotic yet oft repeated assertion that the Irish pad their schedule with a bunch of weaklings, especially when the strength of schedule rankings show otherwise.





Since: Jun 11, 2009
Posted on: August 30, 2011 2:35 pm
 

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

It has nothing to do with tightening requirements for athletes.  Right now only Stanford has more strict requirements for its athletes.  It has to do with being a memeber of the AAU, an association which Notre Dame is not a memeber of by choice due several policies that go against Catholic beliefs.  



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: August 30, 2011 12:26 pm
 

What he really meant...

Our priority,and our clear priority, is maintaining independence, cherry-picking our schedule, and grabbing as much money as we can until the advent of four superconferences and a breakaway division forces our hand.  Then, we will sell our services to the highest bidder, unless we decide to remain in what is left of the current Division 1 and dominate it so we can call ourselves "champions" again.



Since: Nov 26, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2011 12:10 pm
 

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

I would feel terribly sorry for any team conference that had ND join it. Then you would have to put up with those tools all the time.  Please do not ever join a conference.  Thank you




Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: August 30, 2011 11:21 am
 

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

Posted on: August 30, 2011 11:11 amScore: 80 

Failure to comply with Big 10 academic standards has prevented Notre Dame from entering the Big 10 in the past, but the school's academics have been improving in recent decades.


You, sir, are an idiot.   ND currently is ranked #19 in the country for undgrad studies, Northwestern is the only Big 10 school ranked ahead of them.

THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER NOTRE SHAME STANDARDS ARE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE TYPICAL UNDERGRAD, IT'S THE STANDARDS REQUIRED FOR FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL PLAYERS, WHO HAVE AN EXTIRELY DIFFERENT SET OF REQUIREMENTS (AS IN ALL SCHOOLS).  IN ORDER TO JOIN THE BIG 10, NOTRE SHAME WOULD NEED TO TIGHTEN REQUIREMENTS FOR IT'S ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIP ATHLETES.  NEBRASKA HAD TO ALSO REVISE SOME OF THEIR GUIDELINES FOR RECRUITS.



Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: August 30, 2011 11:11 am
 

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

Failure to comply with Big 10 academic standards has prevented Notre Dame from entering the Big 10 in the past, but the school's academics have been improving in recent decades.


You, sir, are an idiot.   ND currently is ranked #19 in the country for undgrad studies, Northwestern is the only Big 10 school ranked ahead of them.



Since: Feb 27, 2011
Posted on: August 30, 2011 10:54 am
 

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

Failure to comply with Big 10 academic standards has prevented Notre Dame from entering the Big 10 in the past, but the school's academics have been improving in recent decades.


Yeah... the BIG 10 would ahve been slumming it to let ND in because of their "weak" academic standards..... are you kidding me?



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Since: Oct 31, 2006
Posted on: August 30, 2011 10:42 am
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Since: Oct 30, 2008
Posted on: August 30, 2011 9:54 am
 

Notre Dame will say no to the Big 12

Texas and the Big XII don't which is why the Big XII makes more sense for Notre Dame. They can be a conference member and still cut their own tv deals, just like Texas.


Not accurate.  Stand alone, Notre Dame doesn't have to win a conference to get a BCS bid.  Stand alone Notre Dame doesn't have to compete with Texas and OU for a bowl bid.  Stand alone, Notre Dame can put together a great schedule without having to worry about conference games.  Stand alone, Notre Dame doesn't have to share any money with any other school.  Stand alone Notre Dame keeps all the Bowl monies.

Besides, you're forgetting one thing, the other schools are leaving the Big 12 because the conference is a cluster truck, run by morons.  Notre Dame see's the writing on the wall.  The Big Ten, PAC 12, and SEC are moving to 16 team conferences.  That means teams like OU, Missouri, Oklahoma State, and Texas are going to be asked to join other conferences, and they will probably go.  Why would Notre Dame join a conference that is going to fail anyway?

Face it, the Big 12 business plan is great for Texas, but terrible for the conference. 


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