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Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

Posted on: August 29, 2011 7:37 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

How close is the divorce between Texas A&M and the Big 12 to being finalized? Close enough that we're already two steps closer than we were this morning, and (as a great man once said) the day ain't over yet.

Earlier Monday we found out the two sides are already set to begin their negotiations over the Aggies' exit fee. Now A&M has announced that their soon-to-be former conference has sent them a letter spelling out the "withdrawal prodcedures" for their exit.

Chief among those procedures are the "mutual waivers of legal claims," the agreement of which has long been thought to have been the "speed bump" on A&M's initial fast-track departure to their next conference destination--one that might be, say, speaking purely from a hypothetical standpoint, the SEC. With the Big 12 already having taken a stance on what "waivers" it would agree to, whatever negotiations (if any) on that front can begin sooner rather than later--as well the "financial provisions" of the move, as an A&M spokeman put it.

The official departure date appears to be advancing quickly enough that even A&M president R. Bowen Loftin -- who has previously stressed that the move was a "100-year decision" that would be handled "methodically" -- released a statement that sounds as if he expects the changeover to be wrapped up quickly (emphasis added):
“I certainly appreciate the discussion among the Big 12 presidents/chancellors and the expression of their desire for Texas A&M to remain in the conference. We all agree that Texas A&M is an extremely valuable institution; thus, it is incumbent upon me, as the president of the university, to ensure that we are in a position to enhance our national visibility and future financial opportunity.

While this is a complex and long-term decision, it is not our intent to prolong our conference exploration for an extended period of time."
Maybe the divorce isn't final just yet. But if Loftin and Mike Slive are spotted at an Ikea this week picking out a coffee table they can both agree on, don't be surprised.


Since: Aug 29, 2011
Posted on: August 30, 2011 2:14 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

How much revenue do those sports/championships bring in?  Or are they funded by football?  That's great about the championships in non revenue sports, but again, how does that make a&m attractive to another conference?

Since: May 7, 2009
Posted on: August 30, 2011 1:21 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

Cartel:  The Big 12 wants to charge TAM to leave the conference, partly because of the big contract with Fox.  This is sort of like your employer asking the courts not to allow you to leave because he can make more money with you as an employee.  But it's the sort of thing that colleges and other cartels of this sort think of as simply their right.  Especially when they make huge bucks and give nothing to the players. 

And don't think this has anything to do with anything except money.  Think there would be an issue if TAM wanted to drop out of the badminton league?   The documents could be signed in an hour.

Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: August 30, 2011 12:26 am

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

Hey gigster; calm down a bit bro! Let's let the play on the field speak for itself, but honestly; I can't recall when the Texas Aggies were relevant on the national landscape. I recall an upset vs. K-State in a title game but little else from your mediocre program. Moving to the SEC is great financially but you'll be a middle-of-the-pack team(AT BEST) in your new league. Look at the bright side! You could finish 3rd in basketball.

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: August 29, 2011 11:47 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

Texas A&M is taking a big gamble and assumes that their membership in the SEC will automatically translate to better recruiting. If they win, that may be true BUT if they do not fare well in the SEC, it may actually hurt not help their recruitment. I can understand wanting to getting away from Texas' shadow but anyway you slice it, this is a big gamble.

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: August 29, 2011 11:36 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

@gigem123. Where in the world do you get your facts. First claims that A&M will be # in academics in the SEC and then that A&M is in the top 15 in the nation when it comes to how hard it is to get into the school. Perhaps you left out a 0 as the end.

Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: August 29, 2011 11:35 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

Too bad Big12 doesn't have a backbone to tell Texas to buzz off and go independent already which eventually will happen. That might have allowed schools to renegotiate their relationship with Texas for even payouts, turning Longhorn network to Big12 network which is dead right now. That could also have kept the A&M in the league. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Texas is fine with running A&M off to SEC. I don't know what the rationale is but what this does is opening up the floodgates.  Yes, this is Texas sized Irene. SEC will need 14th team. Heck, it could go to 16 team.  Then the domino effect.  But when that happens, the key is money and media rights.  I think Texas is onto something.  If you want money from all possible avenues, you surround yourself with like minded selfish programs.  So bring in Notre Dame and BYU each with their network/tv deal. Now we have big 4 of Texas, OU (joined at hip), ND, BYU.  You'll need second fiddlers who may not be best at football but pretty good at basketball to have media leverage on that side which leads to Kansas, K State, Pitt, WV. I'm assuming Syr, Conn, Rutgers will be part of either B1G or ACC.  Lets also add Louisville and Cicinnati since those teams don't fit B1G, ACC, SEC. Keep Ok State and TT who are little brothers. I'm also assuming Missouri is going to be in B1G or SEC. Iowa St and Baylor? Who cares!
You don't have to go to 16 team. You just need enough teams to have a conference that makes sense. See the new make up and potential of new members vs the old Big12. Cha-ching!


Kansas St
Ok State
Texas Tech 

Since: Nov 7, 2010
Posted on: August 29, 2011 11:28 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

#1 in SEC in academics? I think you may want to reassess that thought. Check before you post. There are three universities in the SEC ranked higher than A&M.

Since: Aug 14, 2011
Posted on: August 29, 2011 11:17 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

plus we aint loosin to arkanCRAP! THEY SUCK BRO#14 not Top 10 GET OUT OF HERE MORON!!! WE are going to beat OU just like last year and everyone else on our schedule wait and see chief wait and us on tv sunday night we gonna SMASH!! ON!!! EVERYONE!!!! MOST RETURNING STARTERS OF ANY TEAM IN THE TOP 20 RING A BELL IDIOT??? 17!! 9 on OFFENSE! 8 on DEFENSE!!!

Since: Aug 14, 2011
Posted on: August 29, 2011 11:14 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

ellisunithville you come back with some knowledge Also!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO DO THIS ON THIS FREAKIN SITE!!! THis FREAKIN YEAR!!! ------ 2 TRack & Field Team NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS MEN AND WOMEN BACK TO BACK TO BACK NATIONAL TITLES OUTDOOR!! DUDE!! Thats 3!!! 3!!3YEARS IN A ROW!!! Mens AND Womens Track Outdoor National Champs (2009, 2010, 2011) SO THIS YEAR--------2 NATL TEAM TITLES Track and Field....1 National Title in Womens Basketball 2 National Doubles Titles in Tennis 1 National Team Title in Golf 1 Equestrian National Title College World Series Apperance in Baseball Get OUT OF HERE BRO!!! THATS 5 TEAM NATIONAL TITLES 1 YEAR + WE ARE #8 IN the AP Poll and #9 in the Coaches!!! WE ARENT QUALIFIED??? GET OUT OF HERE AND COME BACK WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE ELLISUNITHVILLE!!!

Since: Aug 29, 2011
Posted on: August 29, 2011 11:04 pm

Big 12 spells out "withdrawal procedures" for A&M

Careful what you wish for ags...ask arkansas how the SEC has treated them. 
Other options? 
follow tcu to Biggest East? 
Head West? 
Big 10 and counting? 
Independent like UT is soon-to-be?  That one I can answer, a resounding NO. 

There is a reason conferences aren't beating down your bring nothing to the table.  Name a reason a conference would feel better by having a&m added to their conference...while you're thinking, the ags most recent rise to prominence has been as fast as the fall for UT from losing in the Championship game to Alabama...pump the brakes...ags aren't on top of the world and UT isn't finished. A #8 ranking is sure to fall with L's to the hogs and sooners.  Either way, it is well past time for little brother to step out of big brothers shadow.  At some point you need to strive to be more than your big brother, not just better than him. 
Good luck and good riddance. 
And yes, have no fear, UT will keep the Thanksgiving game...what other fan base could stomach having to watch y'all over a good meal? 
There is a reason that ESPN put their resources in Austin.  Money Talks.  UT is far and away the most profitable Football program.  That opens eyes...everyone's eyes, other conferences and the worldwide leader in sports.


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