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Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

Posted on: September 1, 2011 11:42 am
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Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Wednesday, BYU officials released a statement condemning conference expansion "conjecture" involving the Cougars as a "distraction" its football program didn't need. We're going to humbly suggest, however, that the Cougars simply get used to it.

Because after this report from the Salt Lake Tribune, it's safe to say that conjecture is only getting started. According to the Tribune, BYU officials and representatives from the Big 12 have already met for discussions regarding "what conditions and assurances [BYU] would need to make the jump" to the soon-to-be Texas A&M-free conference.

Among those "conditions" would be how the Big 12 might coexist with BYU's existing television network, BYUtv, not to mention the rest of BYU's athletics programs; currently, the Cougars are scheduled to join the West Coast Conference in sports other than football beginning with the 2011-2012 athletics season. The Tribune reported that "some of the discussions involve the possibility of BYU joining the Big 12 for football only."

Also reportedly offering "input" to the talks? Representatives from Notre Dame, BYU's "partner" in independence who have an six-year football series scheduled with the Cougars. ESPN's football contract with BYU was also a point of discussion.

All of this makes yesterday's statement seem even more misleading. Before, its omission of any actual denials regarding the Cougars' conference affiliation might have simply been an oversight. But now, it's obvious those omissions were intentional; the rumors linking BYU to the Big 12 have legs, and thickly-built legs at that.

It's still too soon to say BYU-to-the-Big 12 is a done deal, or even likely; with rumors also abundant that a bundle of Pac-12 invitations will have the Big 12 dissolved by Halloween, BYU may not wind up with anywhere to make the jump to. But as far as the Big 12's survival goes, sitting down at the table with a name-brand program like BYU isn't a bad first step at all.
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Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: September 2, 2011 1:57 pm
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

I am aware that football pays the bills, but I can't wait until this discussion carries over into the basketball season and, to a lesser extent, other collegiate sports where the true ramifications of conference re-alignment come to the forefront. As schools transition to the "new and improved" super conferences, fighting for the limited space available, bastardizing themselves and tradition for the almighty dollar, they're losing sight of why some folks care to follow college sports. I'm aware that stagnation is quickly followed by irrelevance, but this wholesale gutting of the college football landscape as we know it will undoubtedly lead to less competition overall and, for a chosen few, a utopia of sorts.
ESPN, without a doubt the 800lb gorilla in the room, is doing it's best to foment this change. Awash with cash and having the cable companies groveling for viewership, the sports channel can profer 10, 15, 20 year deals with the toss of a hat. Very lucrative for those who are picked for inclusion. Hence, the jumbled horizon.
Revel in the success of Boise State. The Broncos are a dying breed because a cabal of super-conferences would (will?) never allow a repeat of their intrusion into "real, big boys" football.

Quarterback Wilson from Wisconsin looked good last night didn't he? 



Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2011 12:54 pm
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

It is funny how some hide behind a religious belief and can say that they adhear to a higher standard than others, don't drink, and other things they deem imoral or against their belief, then on the other hand can lie and stab their Conference Partners in the back for their own good. Why any Conference would want such an ethically challenged partner to join their conference is the big question about BYU? First they ruin the WAC with their attempted back door deals, and now they are going to jerk around the West Coast Conference before they even play a game. The people making decisions about sports at BYU are trashing the name of Brigham Young in the process.



Since: Jul 15, 2011
Posted on: September 2, 2011 12:37 pm
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

First, the Keydet Cult is far more prejudice than any BYU Cougar ever will be, and next RUSerious said it was because of Prop 8, not Sunday schedules!



Since: Aug 31, 2011
Posted on: September 2, 2011 12:31 pm
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

I would love to see Boise State in the Big 12 but think they are more likely to head to the Pac-42 when it expands.  I still think we are a month to 2 years away from this snow-balling into a total restructure of all conferences outside the Ivy League. 



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2011 11:50 am
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

Let me get this right, RUSerious, the two cornerstones of the Prejudice Pac-12 (UCB and Stanford) are so intolerant of others' views that they would prohibit BYU from joining their conference because BYU administrators share a different view of Proposition 8 than they do? 
No, it is because BYU won't play any sports on Sundays and the Pac-12 wouldn't change their whole setup for a fanatical cult associated with the university, so they won't join.



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2011 11:48 am
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

What about BYU is appealing to the Big 12???  What have they done lately?  They would be idiots not to invite Boise State...bigger following, more prestige, perennial powerhouse top 10 team, undefeated in BCS bowls...  BYU and Air Force are just mediocre at this point.




Since: Aug 31, 2011
Posted on: September 2, 2011 9:30 am
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

I would agree that these 4 are core midwest teams but hated to see Nebraska move out.  As an OU fan, I loved the rivalry of OU vs. Nebraska the day after Thanksgiving.  I especially wasn't happy with it since Nebraska is starting to come around as a football program again.  These next 2 years will tell a lot as to the shape of every conference.  (except maybe the Ivy League)  I am excited to see the change but think the Big 12 needs to make every effort to rebuild their conference rather than looking elsewhere. 




Since: Jul 15, 2011
Posted on: September 2, 2011 12:44 am
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

Let me get this right, RUSerious, the two cornerstones of the Prejudice Pac-12 (UCB and Stanford) are so intolerant of others' views that they would prohibit BYU from joining their conference because BYU administrators share a different view of Proposition 8 than they do?  If that's the case, maybe Stanford should consider dropping their final game with Notre Dame giving the Fighting Irish's position on birth control and a womens' right to choose, or is it okay to play those teams with "a different view," but just make sure they aren't allowed in the Pac-12 family?  Are you serious, RUSerious?



Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: September 1, 2011 11:59 pm
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

Seriously, OU, OSU, KU and KSU need to stick together.  T.Boone Pickens has a point.  If the conference collapses, then these core midwest teams need to stik together.



Since: Apr 25, 2008
Posted on: September 1, 2011 10:04 pm
 

Report: BYU in discussions with Big 12

I also really can't believe that someone said Ohio State could make more money in the Big XII than the Big 10.  Even if the money was even there is absolutely no way any school would leave the latter conference.  As an OU fan it is somewhat of a dream that OU join the Big 10 at this point.  While OU is a good school and is well respected, the lack of AAU membership and the fact that it will never happen means no soup for the Sooners.  It would be pretty cool to have OU mentioned in the same paragraph as Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin and the rest of that league as far as academics go.  I really miss the Big 8.


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