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Shocking News: Baylor wants B12 to stick together

Posted on: September 6, 2011 12:17 pm
Edited on: September 6, 2011 12:17 pm
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Posted by Tom Fornelli

Welcome back to the latest episode of "How The Big 12 Slowly And Painfully Disintegrates." In the last few weeks we've seen Texas A&M publicly declare its crush on the SEC, and we've been hearing rumors about how the Pac-12 is ready to jump to 16 teams by adding Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech. Well, one of the schools we haven't heard from much in this whole soap opera is Baylor.

Baylor is a Texas school as well, but unlike A&M, Tech and the Longhorns, there has been no mention of Baylor leaving the Big 12, nor has there been any rumored interest in the program from other conferences. So, shockingly, it seems that Baylor is fully on board the "Let's Keep The Big 12 Together" train. The school is even starting a bit of a grass roots campaign to do so on its website.
Nothing is more beloved in Texas than Texas football. Entire towns travel to neighboring communities on Friday nights as rivals meet under the Friday night lights; Saturday mornings find families rushing out to pee wee football games and spending their afternoons with friends tailgating or watching some of the most historic and storied football rivalries in the nation; Sunday afternoons see families gathered in living rooms across the state to cheer on the Cowboys or the Texans.

Football in Texas is more than a passing interest, it is a part of the fabric of this great state.

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Texans must stand up and call the leadership of the University of Texas, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech to clear-headed thinking about the state's future. Texas' flagship institutions of higher learning are the guardians of the state's future—their loyalties must first be to Texas and to her citizens. Ask these leaders to take a stand for Texas and to stop this madness that will lead to the dissolution of the Big 12 and the end of an era for Texas. 
This is really the only stand that Baylor can take. As I said above, there hasn't been any rumored interest from other conferences in the school, and if the Big 12 does disband, Baylor faces an uncertain future. It would go from being in a BCS conference to likely having to move to the Mountain West or Conference USA.

And unfortunately for Baylor, that seems like the direction things are going to go.
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Since: Jan 8, 2008
Posted on: September 6, 2011 4:46 pm
 

Shocking News: Baylor wants B12 to stick together

Check your facts about the second best SWC record.  I don't think so!

Baylor has 2 outright SWC championships in football and 1 shared since 1965.  A date I arbitrarily use because that is about the time college football was integrated and any facts/stats used that include anything pre-integration really have no impact on the game as it is today.  Four other teams have more conference championships in that same time period so where you get #2 I don't know.  During that same period 1965 to now Baylor has a whopping 42% winning percentage.  Not a team any BCS conferences would go looking for in order to shore up the competitive level of the conference add to TV viewers or pay for road trips to the sub-standard football stadium.

Baylor has subpar atheletic teams with the exception of women's basketball and possibly track.  Their facitilities are sub-standard, small and very out of date.  They just had the biggest opening game win in 30+ years and couldn't even sell it out.  They even denied TCU's request for additional tickets. 

Based on you tag, I am guessing you are a lawyer.  Well if that is correct, I would assume that you consider winning 42% of your cases as success.  I don't think anyone would hire you if you disclosed that you won only 42% of your cases and that was your definition of success.

Just to make sure I didn't misspeak earlier, I just ran the #s on the SWC all time winning percentages and it looks like Baylor's was 46%.  Texas was 69%, Arkansas 54%, Texas A&M 53% so you really need to check you facts & figures or maybe you just need some help with math.

Baylor is hoping and praying to keep the Big 12 together because without the funding they get for being in a BCS conference their atheletic program will fall from the bottom of the chart to off it.



Since: Sep 6, 2011
Posted on: September 6, 2011 4:09 pm
 

Shocking News: Baylor wants B12 to stick together

To be fair, Texas and A&M were the catalysts for the SWC breaking up so I'm not sure what you'd expect Baylor to do but to try and protect themself.  Also, Baylor was tied for the 2nd best winning percentage in SWC history so it's not like they hadn't had any success up to that point.



Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: September 6, 2011 3:48 pm
 

Shocking News: Baylor wants B12 to stick together

I have no sympathy for Baylor. If it wasn't for Ann Richards, Baylor wouldn't have been in the Big 12 in the first place (Texas Tech also got in for political reasons too).

Now you want to do what's best for "Texas football"? Why didn't you think about TCU, Houston, Rice, and SMU back in the 90's?



Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: September 6, 2011 3:07 pm
 

Shocking News: Baylor wants B12 to stick together

In case nobodys noticed CF has peaked. Its on the downhill and the idiots in charge are in the midst of self-destruction. The super conferences are on their way--along with alot more cheating scandals.  Greed reigns(what else is new). Next up-Congress gets involved. That'll fix everything.



Since: Feb 23, 2008
Posted on: September 6, 2011 2:40 pm
 

Shocking News: Baylor wants B12 to stick together

This is shocking news how?  Quite the contrary ... this is EXACTLY what I would expect them to do.  No other BCS conferences have any interest in Baylor.  (Maybe they would get a sniff from C-USA, which is a marginal BCS conference at best.  But that's not a guarantee.)  Their only way to guarantee that they stay in a BCS conference is if the Big 12 stays together.



Since: Aug 31, 2011
Posted on: September 6, 2011 2:29 pm
 

Shocking News: Baylor wants B12 to stick together

Of course Baylor wants the big 12 to stick together.  The problem is that the reason they want to stay together is the same reason that nobody will listen to them.  They don't have any pull in the conference and nobody has been knocking down their door to invite them into their conference.  The were lumped in with the other texas teams when the Big 8 was expanded to the big 12 and they will be lumped into Conference USA or something like that.  They are starting to come around slowly in athletics but they are still no where close to contending year after year.



Since: Aug 31, 2011
Posted on: September 6, 2011 2:29 pm
 

Shocking News: Baylor wants B12 to stick together

Of course Baylor wants the big 12 to stick together.  The problem is that the reason they want to stay together is the same reason that nobody will listen to them.  They don't have any pull in the conference and nobody has been knocking down their door to invite them into their conference.  The were lumped in with the other texas teams when the Big 8 was expanded to the big 12 and they will be lumped into Conference USA or something like that.  They are starting to come around slowly in athletics but they are still no where close to contending year after year.


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