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Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Posted on: September 7, 2011 12:05 pm
Edited on: September 7, 2011 12:26 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

As we've told you about, the SEC voted to accept Texas A&M as the conference's thirteenth member on Tuesday night, but there still seems to be a roadblock or two in the Aggies way. The SEC originally received a notice from the Big 12 on September 2nd that said the SEC was free to accept Texas A&M as a member without fear of any legal repercussions from any other member of the Big 12. 

Something that no longer seems to be the case according to a release from the SEC on Wednesday which said that the conference has voted to accept Texas A&M, but won't officially bring the school into the fold until a certain member of the Big 12 agrees to accept the move.

"After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on September 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member," said Bernie Machen in the statement. "The presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC. We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action. The SEC has stated that to consider an institution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011."

Texas A&M President R. Bowen Loftin released a statement of his own saying pretty much the same thing on Wednesday morning.

“We are certainly pleased with the action taken last night by the presidents and chancellors of the Southeastern Conference to unanimously accept Texas A&M as the league’s 13th member. However, this acceptance is conditional, and we are disappointed in the threats made by one of the Big 12 member institutions to coerce Texas A&M into staying in Big 12 Conference. These actions go against the commitment that was made by this university and the Big 12 on Sept. 2. We are working diligently to resolve any and all issues as outlined by the SEC.”

While neither the SEC or Texas A&M will name this one Big 12 member, it's generally been acknowledged that the school is Baylor. The same Baylor that launched a bit of a grassroots campaign to keep the Big 12 together on Tuesday.

Can Baylor keep Texas A&M from leaving the Big 12? Probably not, but it's hard to blame the school for trying seeing as how the school doesn't know what the future will hold should the Big 12 completely dissolve.

Since: Oct 19, 2007
Posted on: September 8, 2011 1:42 pm

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Baylor is standing at the Dam with its finger in the crack there isnt any stopping this flood. Texas started this train down the track and the whole ncaa is about to get steamrolled

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: September 8, 2011 11:44 am

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

I don't understand why any members of the current Big 12 would stick around with the Longhorn Network.  Indivdual networks only work with Independents.  The potential lawsuit is ridiculous.  Are they going to sue Colorado and Nebraska too?

Since: Sep 6, 2008
Posted on: September 8, 2011 11:18 am

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

I find it funny that the schools crying and screaming for legal action (Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Iowa State and Missouri) are the schools that really don’t have a hope of immediate acceptance into another conference.  Texas can fly it alone if it needs to, but would likely get an invite from all 5 of the remaining AQ's; as would Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.  This reminds me of the kid who did not get a prom date threatening to sue the school board over the location of the prom.  Texas Tech, Kansas, Missouri and even Kansas State would probably get an invite to an AQ conference.  Everyone needs to realize that with the HUGE individual Texas TV contract, the loss of Nebraska and Colorado, the Big-12 is dead and make a break for the closest remaining AQ.  Sorry but thanks to the Pac-12 and the Big-10 getting hungry last summer the map of college football is forever changed and it is going to lead to 4 MAJOR conferences (SEC, PAC-12/16, Big-10/16 and a merger of the Big East and ACC).  Each with 16 teams and while there will be some minor dismissals from reconstruction right now there are only a few spots left.   3 in the SEC, 4 in the Pac and Big-12 and the ABC (ACC/BE marriage) has
to lose 4...choose your new dancing partners and let the youngest conference of the Big 12 fade into a non-memory.

Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: September 8, 2011 6:02 am

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Define hypocrisy. Baylor has blackballed TCU for years, effectively keeping them out of the Big 12. However, now they take the "righteous" position about saving the Big 12, and stadning up for the little guy. Hogwash! They are only about saving themselves, and have always been about their own interests. Hypocrites! There wouldn't even be a Big 12 without Texas and Oklahoma. Baylor, A&M, TTech, Iowa St. etc. are like the parasites that attach themselves to the sides of the whales in order to survive. These smaller schools, that bring absolutely nothing to the table mooch off of the popularity and success of the bigger schools. Bring on the super conferences! Let the big dogs eat! Let the sisters of the poor fend for themselves.

Since: Sep 8, 2011
Posted on: September 8, 2011 1:44 am

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Baylor saw the 'writing on the wall', they and possibly Iowa State are the only two Big XII schools that don't appear to have a BCS Conference showing interest in them after the Big XII Folds so I 'get this possible lawsuit'.  Baylor for it's part should sell their seats to opposing teams to help fill their stadium instead of using that stupid would bring in more money for your school....that happened to T C U and I've heard it's happened to A&M and some other schools......false pride for less money?

Nebraska got tired of being in ut/tu's shadow and found a conference that suits them better with the Big 10 and Colorado has been wanting to be in the Pac 12 for at least the past few years.......with no baseball, poor football and a basketball program that is on the way up they are the most fortunate and smartest ex member of the Big 12.  Had they stayed in the Big XII, XI, X, XIII who knows where they'd be today?  

Those two schools did pay exit fees to leave this mess and instead what does the Big XII they try to replace these programs with possibly TCU, BYU, Air Force or Tulsa.......or they didn't.  Instead, they made this poor deal which gave the advantage to the horns, ags, and sooners......and of course, The Longhorn Network!  I was sad to see CU and NU leave the Big 12 but understand why......if A&M wants to leave make them pay an exit fee.....they shouldn't be treated any differently than CU or NU in that regard.  Same thing if Oklahoma leaves as long as there is a conference left all teams that leave should pay an exit fee.  But do not start filing lawsuits against schools that want to leave a messed up, litigated and unstable conference.........No one can blame them or anyone else that follows suit.

The one that needs to be blamed here is their lousy commissioner Dan Beebe, this clown has shown no foresight or any concern in keeping this conference together and that's a shame.  The Big 8 and for awhile Big 12 was a great conference.  Perhaps we should blame former TX Governor Ann Richards for some of this mess as well since it was her insisting that Baylor and not TCU be the 4th team to join the Big 12. 

Finally, there are those saying that 4 16 team conferences will result in a playoff and a true national champion........but the same thing could've happened with 8 larger conferences with all NCAA Division 1 schools.....this would include the non AQ schools.  See only having the so called 'top 64' you will be missing out on the non AQ schools who many think don't deserve a shot of winning the Nat'l championship.   Ther
e won't be a true national champion because of that.   Do you leave out Boise State, East Carolina, or any other non AQ school from the chance to win your new 'championship....or will there be 'at large bids extended to these schools....something to think about.

While the NCAA Basketball Tournament isn't perfect at least EVERYONE has a chance to win it all........the last two seasons with Butler and VCU making the Final Four makes it even more awesome and when one of those schools or any other 'mid major' school wins the tournament.....that is why it is and always will be the best college sporting event.

Since: Sep 7, 2011
Posted on: September 8, 2011 12:40 am

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

I'm a Utah alumna living in Texas, and have no connection to any Big XII school.

The Pac-12 should want Texas, Oklahoma, Baylor, and Oklahoma State (assuming they couldn't get A&M), not Texas Tech.

Academically, they don't compare.  Texas Tech would be an academic outlier, even with ASU, WSU, the existing OSU and the new OSU. 

Since: Sep 6, 2011
Posted on: September 7, 2011 11:09 pm

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Hey grantpc, the beligerent Aggies are not destroying the Big12.  It is the LHN (Longhorn Network). That started when Nebraska and Colorado left last year. The LHN will ultimately destroy the Big12.

This is stupid. the aggies had there chance to get in on the  network. Texas gave them every chance, because a and m is the sister school. They failed to get on the band wagon because it was texas' idea. Well i understand that a and m is tired of being in texas' shadow for the last 100 and some odd years, being dominated by them, and could not fathom the thought of being second fiddle to texas in the network. Then when the saw that texas had a good idea, they wanted in. they got denied by texas, they got butty hurt again, and now they are trying to shoot themselves in the face by becoming 6th fiddle in the dominant SEC west. Good luck down the road aggs. your gonna need it. Good luck in recruiting against the SEC. You have been a massive let down for the people of texas. And now you are going to be the doormat for the sec to raid the recruits in texas. Way to go. Oh, how many ags does it take to screw themselves? Sounds like 2 is the answer.   

Since: Oct 29, 2007
Posted on: September 7, 2011 9:08 pm

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

I am a Southern Baptist and think Baylor is grasping at straws.   I find it odd that they have Kent Starr as their president since he was one of the most polarizing figures in the latter part of the 20th century.  We saw how long he tried to take down the Clinton Administration and he failed miserably.  I hope that clearer heads will prevail and Baylor will acquiesce to A & M going to the SEC.

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: September 7, 2011 9:06 pm

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

That's right folks it's business and survival.  Baylor knows they're likely to end up on CUSA or the MWC when this is done and they are doing all that they can to survive.  You can't really blame them as that's their leader's job--to protect the interests of the school.  As for Texas to the B10?  Are you crazy?  Nebraska came to the B10 to get away from them, so now the B10 would take Texas--I think that would have to be over Nebraska's dead body.   I think Indy or the PAC are much more likely.

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Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2011 8:34 pm
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