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Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

Posted on: September 13, 2011 7:45 pm
Edited on: September 13, 2011 7:56 pm
 
Posted by Chip Patterson

Florida State does not know what kind of role it will have in the potential shift in conference realignment, but the school is making efforts to ensure they will be prepared for all scenarios.

Andy Harggard, chairman of FSU's board of trustees, told the Palm Beach Post on Tuesday that the school has begun forming a committee that will explore the university's options.

He says FSU should be prepared for any scenario, whether it's moving to another conference or staying in the ACC, and having a say in who else may join the league. That could mean Texas, which will seek to leave the Big 12 if Oklahoma and Oklahoma State jump to the Pac-12, which is expected.

Haggard said he believes that if Oklahoma and Texas decide to leave the Big 12 then "you will see the dominoes fall."

In the report, Haggard confirmed that Florida State has not been approached by the SEC and university officials are very happy with their current status with the ACC. The Seminoles have been rumored as a potential new member for the SEC for years, but that speculation has grown as the conference now looks for a 14th member to join Texas A&M.

While conference commissioner Mike Slive may say they are exploring the scheduling of a 13-team conference, it is the common belief that adding a 14th to keep divisions even is a preferable option. Adding Florida State would violate the "gentlemen's agreement" to not add a school from an existing SEC territory, but if "the dominoes fall" school officials may decide to act against their previous arrangements.

The rumors of Texas joining the ACC kicked into high gear after UT officials traveled to Norman to meet with Oklahoma about keeping the Big 12 together. With the results of that meeting being less than favorable for the future of the conference, Texas now much consider their next move.

With ESPN's arrangements with Texas for The Longhorn Network, it would seem that the most feasible options would be either to follow Oklahoma west to the Pac-12, or try to join with the ACC - who also has a media rights deal with ESPN.

Florida State was the face of ACC football from the moment they joined the conference in 1992. Since joining the Seminoles have won 12 conference titles, including a nine-year run from 1992-2000 where they added two national championships. Since 2005 the Seminoles sputtered to match their dominance as head coach Bobby Bowden slowly passed the program on to head coach Jimbo Fisher.

With the Seminoles back in the position of ACC favorite and national contender under Fisher, it would make sense the school wants to take an aggressive and prominent position in a potential realignment. Florida State was the face of ACC football when it joined, and they want to make sure their voice is heard if/when they expand.

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Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: September 16, 2011 12:32 pm
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

If the ACC would ever expand to 16 teams the logical choices would probably include Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, Rutgers.  I doubt that WVU would get an invitation from the ACC for many reasons. Pitt would be the logical choice over WVU for a variety of reasons also.  The current BE Conference is in such a fragmented mess of "hodgepodge" colleges representing 16 Basketball schools and 8 Football schools. The BE is in a serious delemia to create a 12 to 16 member football conference as it now stands.  The opinion is Pitt, Syracuse, UConn and Rutgers would move fast to the ACC if they were ever invited to be a member. The current ACC has fine academic institutions and ALL members share equally in conference revenue.  



Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: September 16, 2011 12:10 pm
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

Yes !  VT and FSU have played each for many years prior to VT joining the ACC in 2004. In fact, VT and FSU played for the BCS National Champioship when the HOKIES were members of the BE Conference. VT has earned the ACC football championship 4 out of the 7 years since 2004.  VT has certainly been a strong member of the ACC.  The Hokie Nation is one of the best in traveling to support their beloved HOKIES to competitive Venues. 



Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: September 15, 2011 12:39 pm
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

Yes, FSU and VT used to play when FSU was football independent, but played basketball in the Metro Conference.  VT was a part of the Metro also and played each other for several years before FSU joined the ACC.  They also met in 1999, in a small January regional game in New Orleans.  I think Michael Vick was the VT QB.



Since: May 23, 2011
Posted on: September 15, 2011 8:51 am
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

The SEC offered FSU a slot when the SEC decided to go to 12 teams.  FSU passed, and Bowden said it was because it would be easier to win NC's in the ACC than the SEC.  Now there is talk of FSU wanting to be in the SEC.  I am not in favor of any expansion now, but it looks like it is going to happen.  Just does not look like FSU will be a part of the SEC expansion. 


Here is a link to a couple articles (FSU fan site, but the articles are from several FL newspapers) that discuss the behind the scenes process that went into the decision.  While Bowden had a say, he wasn't the final say nor did he even have a major say:



Don't believe everything you read on message boards.



Since: May 23, 2011
Posted on: September 15, 2011 8:47 am
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

The ACC money was better than the SEC?  Really?  It had nothing to do with the fact that FSU was scarred to death they wouldn’t be able to compete in the SEC.  Since the BCS was created in 1998 there have been 13 games the SEC has won 7 of those (8 if you want to countAuburnin 2004) and the ACC has one 1 (that was you congratulations).  I think you guys made the right decision, because you probably wouldn’t have that one championship if you were in the SEC, but let’s not get delusional and say it was for the money.

 

You guys did not join the SEC for the same reasonTexaswon’t and that is you are scared to compete with the big boys.




Yes, in 1991, the money in the ACC was better.  It was before the huge football television deals.  Look it up. 

And it's laughable that anyone says FSU was scared of the SEC or couldn't compete.  FSU was playing UF, Auburn and LSU on a regular basis in the 80's.  Furthermore, FSU beat UF, the SEC's best team in the 90's, more often than not when they played one another.

And what does 1998 going forward have to do with the discussion?  We're talking 90/91.

No delusion this way, but I see that you are incapable of arguing the points I made in my post without throwing out a bunch of red herrings. 



Since: Jul 3, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 3:34 pm
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

Did FSU & Tech play prior to ACC Play? Cause they have only been together in ACC since 2004.



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 3:13 pm
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

The SEC offered FSU a slot when the SEC decided to go to 12 teams.  FSU passed, and Bowden said it was because it would be easier to win NC's in the ACC than the SEC.  Now there is talk of FSU wanting to be in the SEC.  I am not in favor of any expansion now, but it looks like it is going to happen.  Just does not look like FSU will be a part of the SEC expansion. 



Since: Sep 13, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 3:07 pm
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

The ACC money was better than the SEC?  Really?  It had nothing to do with the fact that FSU was scarred to death they wouldn’t be able to compete in the SEC.  Since the BCS was created in 1998 there have been 13 games the SEC has won 7 of those (8 if you want to countAuburnin 2004) and the ACC has one 1 (that was you congratulations).  I think you guys made the right decision, because you probably wouldn’t have that one championship if you were in the SEC, but let’s not get delusional and say it was for the money.

 

You guys did not join the SEC for the same reasonTexaswon’t and that is you are scared to compete with the big boys.




Since: May 23, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 2:51 pm
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

I don't get it. Texas A&M wants to break away from Texas. Florida doesn't want Florida State in the SEC. Yet Oklahoma demands every conference that Oklahoma State has to come with them, Kansas demands every conference that Kansas State has to come with them, Mark Warner demands Virginia Tech join Virginia. All the instate rivals I could care less about basically get shoved down my throat and all the instate rivals I want to see together don't want to be together. Here's a hint. I want to see Florida rivals play each other, Texas rivals play each other, Pennsylvania (Penn State and Pitt) play each other. I don't care about two schools from tiny states playing each other.


UF has tried to hold FSU down for the last 50 years.  They refused to play FSU in the 50's when FSU started the football team and only began playing them under threat by the FL legislature making it law.  Then, FSU tried and tried and tried to get into the SEC for 25 years and only when the ACC came a calling did the SEC/UF extend their invite (too little too late...and at the time, the ACC money was better).

I hear people talk about 'little brother syndrome' all the time, but if there was ever a case of 'big brother syndrome', UF has it.  Spoiled brats.



Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 2:22 pm
 

Trustee: FSU forming realignment committee

I don't get it. Texas A&M wants to break away from Texas. Florida doesn't want Florida State in the SEC. Yet Oklahoma demands every conference that Oklahoma State has to come with them, Kansas demands every conference that Kansas State has to come with them, Mark Warner demands Virginia Tech join Virginia. All the instate rivals I could care less about basically get shoved down my throat and all the instate rivals I want to see together don't want to be together. Here's a hint. I want to see Florida rivals play each other, Texas rivals play each other, Pennsylvania (Penn State and Pitt) play each other. I don't care about two schools from tiny states playing each other.


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