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Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

Posted on: September 21, 2011 1:04 am
Edited on: September 21, 2011 1:27 am
Posted by Bryan Fischer

"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in."

- The Godfather, Part III.

The aforementioned movie was probably the worst of the trio of films in The Godfather series but the quote is a fairly accurate reflection of what happened Tuesday. Just when you thought Oklahoma was out, they're pulled back in. Or, thanks to the Pac-12's statement late Tuesday night, pushed back into the Big 12.

For now.

As everyone woke up, it seemed as though Oklahoma (and Oklahoma State too) were headed to the Pac-12. Their board had authorized President David Boren to act in the best interest of the school regarding conference realignment on Monday. It looked like it was a mere formality before there'd be some movement. Before everyone was home from work though, it seemed as things had cooled on that.

The Sooners would still be willing to work out somethings in order to make the Big 12 work, The Oklahoman reported. Commish Dan Beebe had to go, Texas would have to alter The Longhorn Network and concessions would have to be made. The door was open for the Big 12, but so was the Pac-12's... until the latter wasn't.

That's the gist of the Pac-12's statement, that they'd be sticking with the current group of schools and their giant media rights deal that still has ink drying on it. From the looks of everything - and that seems to change hour-by-hour - Oklahoma will no longer head West and we've essentially hit the pause/reset button on the realignment craze for at least a few more days.

"We were not surprised by the Pac 12's decision to not expand at this time," Boren said in a statement. "Even though we had decided not to apply for membership this year, we have developed a positive relationship with the leadership of the conference and we have kept them informed of the progress we've been making to gain agreement from the Big 12 for changes which will make the conference more stable in the future."

What's it all mean?

For the Pac-12: Raise your glasses once again to Larry Scott. It was his vision a year ago to push for the Pac-16 and when offered the chance to make it work, he said no because he couldn't do it on his terms. According to the San Jose Mercury News' Jon Wilner, the league balked at giving Texas a sweetheart deal to make the arrangement with the Oklahoma schools work. The Longhorn Network isn't their problem and now the league can go back to putting together their own network that makes LHN's distribution look like a needle in the haystack. That's another win for the Scott and the conference.

For the Big 12: Texas and Oklahoma have to work things out and the other schools have to sign off on it. Texas A&M is still leaving for the SEC so that means expansion is still a topic for discussion (Hello TCU?, BYU?). A source told the AP that the two power schools will meet in the next few days to negotiate a deal to keep both in the league for five years. Forget the Red River Shootout, the Red River Boardroom will be the place to see these two teams square off this year.

It's hard to see Beebe keeping his job through all of this. It's clear he's not in charge anymore and it's time to go. reported late Tuesday night that it's not just the Sooners that want the commissioner out. Perhaps Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione could succeed him, he's one of the sharpest people in college athletics and someone who could rally all of the schools and keep the league afloat.

For the Big East: The conference's football teams - newcomer TCU included - met tonight in New York City and remained firmly committed to the league. It's clear that commissioner John Marinatto will hold Pitt and Syracuse in the league until 2014 and actively pursue options to replace them when they do in fact head to the ACC. Brett McMurphy has a detailed account of the meeting and says that Navy and Air Force are two likely targets for the Big East.

For the SEC: Get ready to roll out the welcome mats (officially) for Texas A&M. The Big 12 sticking together means that Baylor and the other schools can relinquish their legal threats and allow the Aggies to proceed on their way East. It remains to be seen if they're going to pursue a 14th team but it seems as though Missouri is off the table - if they were in fact looking at the Tigers to fill that spot as reports had indicated.

For the ACC: Sit tight boys, it will be awhile before the two newest schools will be ready to join the conference. Might want to pump the brakes on adding UConn or Rutgers too as the superconference idea looks to still be aways off.

For the BCS: Oh yeah, don't forget about the BCS itself. There are leagues shifting around like crazy and numbers are certainly going to change. The end date for the current contract is in 2014 but the evaluation process to determine what conference is an automatic qualifier starts much earlier. This might be the final piece of the realignment puzzle to be worked out, but it's one of - if not the - most important.


Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:14 am

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

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Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: September 23, 2011 11:26 pm

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

"TV rights are also at the center of the Big 12's attempt to patch itself back together.

The nine remaining schools -- Texas A&M is planning to leave in 2012 -- have agreed in principle to give their TV rights to the conference for the next six years. That would essentially handcuff the schools to the Big 12 by making them leave behind their TV rights and money if they break away or are poached by another league."

From another site. This is what I was referring to when I said the PAC won't be getting any Big 12 schools for many years if they don't do it NOW.

Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: September 23, 2011 11:18 pm

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

When Texas A&M leaves for the SEC, that will leave 9 teams in the Big 12. It is already talking with BYU about membership bringing the conference up to 10 teams. I think they would be happy at this number since the North and South Divisions would then be even. (Missouri, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, and BYU in the North, and Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State in the South). If it were then to try to expand back to 12, it's logical invitees would be, in my personal opinion, Boise State in the North Division (and the sooner the better beforre they go elsewhere) and then TCU for the South Division. I think with this arrange, the Big 12 would find its stability and would remain a viable conference for many more years. The PAC 12 would not expand to include any Big 12 schools in the next several years. If the PAC wants to do that, it needs to do that now, or lose its chance for years to come.

Since: Sep 18, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 3:41 pm

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

:  Even with 13 members..if all 9 members voted for FSU, thats only need 3/4 (75% if you can not do math)

*3.1.2 Granting of Membership.

Membership may be granted by invitation of the Conference at a regular or called

meeting. A three-fourths vote of members is required to extend an invitation for membership. [

Revised 5/30/91


Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 2:52 pm

Expansion Quest

Larry Scott decided not to expand from 12 to 16....right now. This is just a precautionary PR move. Although Mr. Scott is being marveled as a pioneer for progressively transforming the PAC 10 overnight, I don’t think he wants to be viewed as the instigator of all this conference jumping.

(IMO) the recent rash of schools announcing their interest in joining different conferences is merely an impulsive response to the pro-activeness of the PAC's expansion to 12 schools and Texas' television deal.

The majority of the schools trying to jump ship are basically "leaches" benefiting from the more prominent teams anyway. Most of these schools will NEVER sniff a chance at the Exhibition Title, but as long as they receive their "conference share" of that Exhibition money, they will go where ever and do whatever they are told to do by the "Corrupt Commission" that is the BCS.

The BCS is like the former Soviet Union and Larry Scott would be equivalent to Nikita Khrushchev gobbling up Eastern Block satellite nations to expand the USSR into a "superpower." Larry Scott does not want to be the guy that is hung out to dry when the BCS crumbles like the Berlin Wall.

None the less, I agree with his decision to remain at 12 teams because if we all remember, the whole idea of expanding to 12 teams was to have a conference championship game like the other BCS conferences.

The focus should not be directed at Larry Scott, but to the elusive and exclusive group of individual(s) that are really pushing the conference jumping. Where is Bill Hancock and why do the Board of Regents always holds secret meetings in the middle of the night?

So, when the PAC-12 ultimately expands to 16 teams, it won't be an initiative of Larry Scott, but rather a response to the directives to create "Super Conferences." Once all the shuffling is done with the ACC, SEC and BIG TEN, the PAC will acquire the Oklahoma schools, Texas Tech and BOISE ST. because TEXAS is going to secede from the UNION (NCAA) and go INDEPENDENT. A new Civil War is eminent when the lesser and excluded teams battle the BCS (Confederacy) in the courts over revenue streams generated by the indentured servants that are the student

What is being overlooked in all this is the fact that the "students" have the power to overthrow the entire BCS process since they pay the tuition and athletic fees to utilize and access all sporting events. Furthermore, if the schools in question are state-funded universities, the "People" of said state have the right to deny conference swapping and the legality of the BCS and NCAA to do so without the permission of a voting body.

We are witnessing authoritarian governments and dictators being overthrown around the world right now. Who's to say the same won't happen to the BCS? Anarchy will always result in a coup d'état and I hope to be at the head of that charge.

Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 12:58 pm

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

As for teams leaving the ACC, the school Presidents just voted to raise the fee to $20,000,000 to leave the conference.  Why would a President vote for this change and then leave the conference costing their school big money?  No one is leaving the ACC...

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: September 22, 2011 12:42 pm

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

xbryan:  ***Newsflash***.....the SEC now has 13 teams, do the math.  Those four schools votes no longer matter.  It's about the SEC getting bigger and better.  If I was them, I'd go after FSU or Clemson as the 14th team before WVU, regardless of the feathers it ruffles.

Since: Sep 18, 2011
Posted on: September 22, 2011 10:46 am

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20


Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, and South Carolina have a four team pack to block votes of FSU, Georgia Tech, Louisville, and Clemson from getting in the SEC.  Not one of those schools is going to allow another instate team in the SEC to downgrade their recruiting.  Conference must have at least 9 schools to vote to accept someone.  These school will not get in over their dead bodies.  West Viriginia is the ultimate fall back, begging to be asked.

Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: September 22, 2011 4:44 am

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

I want to congratulate Mark Schlabach of ESPN on being the ONLY voice on "The Experts" and really of all ESPN/CBSSports analysts to stress that the Pac12 expansion was not a done deal.  I too predicted on one of these blogs, that without an agreement with Texas, they would not accept Oklahoma/OK State - enraging many of their fans.   Next Steps by conference:


Thank you Larry Scott/Pac12 Presidents.


Will stand pat for now.  Less pressure now that Pac12 has rejected expansion.


Rejected West Virginia.  Missouri is also rejected for the most part.  I always said that SEC Presidents would never admit it, but really would not want to include a "Yankee" school.  Not because the still believe in the Confederacy, but because of their identity.

So, I predict the SEC will seek to go to 14 not 16.  Next move is Florida State, Florida will object but the school's appeal is overwhelming.  consider that there are five major football programs in Florida, yet two schools from Mississippi in the SEC and only one from Florida. 

Second choice VA Tech, but Virginia politicians are heavily involved in their schools and they will not want Virginia and VA Tech to be split up.

Final choice NC State.  North Carolina/Duke will not be split, but NC State has no such connection.  Fits the SEC map well.

Louisville, Miami, sorry no city schools in this conference.



IF an SEC rumor about an ACC school starts up in time, the ACC may only take UConn and stay at 14.  IF it doesn't happen in time, they may take UConn and Rutgers (Once Rutgers is convinced BIG TEN acceptance won’t happen), then if the SEC takes a team, I predict they will look at Villanova or Temple.  They have already rejected WVU.  

IF they lose Florida State or NC State, Central Florida or South Florida might be targets, but I doubt it as their both Tier 3 schools, as is West Virginia. 

I also think they will have several discussions with Notre Dame, but unless there are an impending four 16 Team conferences, ND won't feel pressured, and stays independent. 

Big East

Louisville, West Virginia, Cincinnati all beg to be included in a Big 12 expansion.  If the football members implode, Louisville and Cinci may stay or go back to Conference USA.  

Isn't it quite a slap in the face to Army, who is in West Point NY not to be mentioned, yet Air Force from Colorado Springs, is?  I do predict that if they invite Navy and Air Force, they will have to include Army.  The armed forces will stay together.  More likely Air Force stays in MWC and Army/Navy joins. 

East Carolina has applied for membership, but I’m not sure why.  I think they are miscalculating the “recommitment” that the football schools have made.

Losers are UMass and ‘Nova who both had hoped to get to Big East football eventually.  South Florida and Cinci who aren’t in the conversation.


Survives, but difficult to predict.  Probably accepts BYU.  Having been this close to extinction again, they will push get to 12 and a Conference Championship.   Yes, they may reach out to Louisville and West Virginia if UConn and Rutgers announce departing the Big East.  I do think discussions will happen with Houston, SMU, TCU, Boise State, and maybe even Colorado State.

For those who think TCU is a natural, recall that the reason they were not asked when Nebraska and Colorado left because of the difficulty around accepting TCU without SMU and Houston, Texas politics being what they are. 

In the end, don't be surprised if the Big12 goes to 16 before or at the same time as the ACC does.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: September 22, 2011 2:04 am

Conference realignment road map: Sept. 20

If the Big 12 ends up staying together, why not recruit TCU to replace A&M?  The Big 12 has to be much more appealing to TCU than the Big East.  The Big East is highly volatile too so it may be a better move for TCU in the long run.

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