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VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

Posted on: September 24, 2011 5:58 pm
Edited on: September 24, 2011 8:16 pm
 
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

UPDATE: The Big East issued this statement from the conference office Saturday evening.

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (Sept. 24, 2011) -- BIG EAST Conference coordinator of football officiating Terry McAulay has issued the following statement, with regard to a play in the fourth quarter of Saturday’s football game between Syracuse and Toledo.

"After studying the videos of the Syracuse extra point attempt at 2:07 of the fourth quarter, we have concluded that the ruling on the field that the kick passed between the uprights was incorrect, and that the replay official made an error in failing to reverse that ruling.  In reviewing the video, we have determined that the angle from behind the kicking team shows conclusively that the ball passes outside the right upright.

Our review of the process determined that the replay official mistakenly focused his attention on the sideline angle, which proved to be distorted. We are confident that our officiating staff will learn from this situation in order to prevent a reoccurrence. "

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One thing the 2011 season had been blessedly free of through its first three weeks was a major officiating controversy. So it's a shame that all good things do come to an end.

The scene: in a back-and-forth game against Toledo, Syracuse scores a touchdown with 2:07 remaining to go ahead 29-27 on the visiting Rockets. Ross Krautman lines up for the extra point. The kick is signaled good, but the call goes to the booth. And then this happens:

 

We'll offer a modicum of forgiveness for the official on the field, who at least has the excuse of the ball whizzing over his head at an high rate of speed. But this blogger doesn't believe he's ever seen a more glaring example of indisputable evidence than the ball remaining in view during the entire replay, which means that according to nothing less than the laws pf physics which govern the universe as we know it, there is no possible way the ball passed inside the left upright.

It would have been nice for the Rockets if this stunning display of incompetence hadn't affected the outcome. But of course the Rockets drove for a field goal on the final play of regulation--a field goal that should have given them a deserved 30-29 victory. Instead it only took them to overtime, where Austin Dantin threw an interception on the Rockets' first play of OT, dooming them to the 33-30 loss.

We want to give the officials the benefit of the doubt, we really do. But sometimes there's just nothing to say other than: this was a terrible, terrible mistake, and this result is terribly, terribly unfair to Toledo. A suspension or reprimand is no doubt coming for the replay official -- you did watch the video, right? -- but we doubt that's going to make the Rockets feel any better.

HT: SportsGrid.
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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:17 am
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

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Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: September 27, 2011 4:17 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

Quantum kick....that's the explanation.  This article stated that:

"remaining in view during the entire replay, which means that according to nothing less than the laws pf physics which govern the universe as we know it, there is no possible way the ball passed inside the left upright."

Obviously you're not familiar with quantum mechanics.   The famous "cat in the box" thought experiment shows us what happens when there's a Quantum Kick, such as there was in the Syracuse-Toledo game.   In the "cat in the box", the cat remains both alive and dead (to the universe outside the box).....and so it is with a Quantum Kick.  The kick was both inside and outside the goal post.  I'm certain any Syracuse football player could explain it in much better detail than I can.
Shrodinger's cat was an example of cat being alive and dead at the same time as the stopper on the poison was made of radioactive material, therefore due to radiactive decay/half-life (the weak force), the stopper exists one instant but not the next.

But the rest of the title of the experiment is "paradox", because just as the football never passes behind/to the right of the upright, so do in reality the cat does not die (if observed).  As we measured, or viewed the kick, the alternate possibility of making the kick ceases to exist.

So even theoretical physics agrees that he missed the kick. 



Since: Jan 4, 2009
Posted on: September 26, 2011 11:46 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

Quantum kick....that's the explanation.  This article stated that:

"remaining in view during the entire replay, which means that according to nothing less than the laws pf physics which govern the universe as we know it, there is no possible way the ball passed inside the left upright."

Obviously you're not familiar with quantum mechanics.   The famous "cat in the box" thought experiment shows us what happens when there's a Quantum Kick, such as there was in the Syracuse-Toledo game.   In the "cat in the box", the cat remains both alive and dead (to the universe outside the box).....and so it is with a Quantum Kick.  The kick was both inside and outside the goal post.  I'm certain any Syracuse football player could explain it in much better detail than I can.   




Since: Mar 6, 2010
Posted on: September 26, 2011 7:34 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

There was a call in the Ohio State-Colorado game where a catch was ruled incomplete when the Ohio State receiver caught the ball, got one foot down then stepped on the sideline. After that, a Colorado defender hit him and the ball came out when he hit the ground out of bounds. They ruled it incomplete, and wouldn't change it even after it was clearly shown the guy caught the ball. Once you catch a ball with a foot in bounds then step on the sideline, the play is over. Completed catch, and it doesn't matter if at that point the guy who caught the ball dropped it or threw it into the stands. Its still a catch. College officials absolutely suck. I would love to do their job and show them how to do it. Fortunately, the call in the OSU-CU game didn't matter, but for Toledo, the officials blew it big time, and still had the gall to leave the call wrong even after video showed it was a horrendous call. Judging whether a FG is good has got to be the easiest call in football. You've got 2 guys right there, plus replay. They must not have wanted to embarass the bum officials, but screw that! What's more important? Getting the call right, or hurting the feelings of a couple of crappy officials?



Since: Apr 26, 2008
Posted on: September 26, 2011 6:23 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

Point-shaving?  If Toledo goes down and scores a TD, that one point is not going to matter.  Actually... maybe the Toledo coach was point-shaving.  Why didn't he try for a TD with a first down inside the 10 yard line and 1:00 minute to go and timeouts?  A coupla lame runs.  I am a Syracuse fan and I have no mercy for Toledo.  They moved the ball against us at will and would have scored a TD if they tried.  They let us up off the mat even more so than the refs.  And the OT effort by Toledo was poor also.  In the history of bad calls, this may be up there for its inaccuracy.  But it is nowhere near close when it comes to outcome of the game. 




Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: September 26, 2011 4:37 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

One thing the 2011 season had been blessedly free of through its first three weeks was a major officiating controversy.
Not so sure about this. Maybe there hasn't been a "major officiating controversy" but I have seen some very bizarre officating this year. For example, giving USC a TD over an hour after the game was over, the phantom catcher interference call on the punt toward the end of the Washington Nebraska game that cost Washington a TD which may prevented them from getting back into the game...



Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: September 26, 2011 3:51 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

I've watched the replay over and over, and I was a Referee for years.............it's a great call, got it right, for sure!

Regards,

Phil Luckett




Since: Mar 28, 2009
Posted on: September 26, 2011 2:19 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

Big East officials can try to cover their ass all they want, but the word is out. POINT SHAVING is alive and well in college sports. Line: Syracuse - 2 1/2. Big Frank and Louie got paid off. Elsewise, someone was going to take a long ride down a dark alley. Go figure the obvious. These games are TAINTED!! They probably already know who's going to win the National Championship.



Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: September 26, 2011 1:41 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

If I was a Toledo fan I would be very upset.  How can they miss that after reviewing it.  You can clearly see the football cross in front of the goal post, so it has to be wide.  Horrible call...But as angry as I would be, you cannot change the outcome of the game now because you cannot guarantee that Syracuse would not have played more agressively to try to keep them out of field goal range.
  Toledo should be even more upset with HORRIBLE time management, they were inside the 4 with plenty of time to try a couple of times for the endzone but instead chose to play for the tie!  really bad time managment at the end of that game.



Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: September 26, 2011 12:59 pm
 

VIDEO: Toledo jobbed in OT loss by blown PAT call

Vacating the win would be stupid.  I don't much care for Syracuse, but the reality is, had they not had that extra point count, they might have played defense differently and Toledo might have done something different on offense.  Too many variables to be able to simply say that Toledo would have won had the EP not counted. 


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