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Big 12 poll reactions, Week 4

Posted on: September 26, 2011 3:55 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

This week's polls have been released. Here's how the Big 12 fared, from the top of the polls to its bottom, and what it means. 


2/1. Oklahoma

The Sooners can no longer lay claim to being the undisputed poll champions of the universe this week as they're knocked down a spot in the AP poll to make room for LSU. Which, if you've been reading these in recent weeks, is the right thing to do. LSU has three wins against ranked opponents already this season, and none of them have come in Baton Rouge. Oklahoma has a nice win on the road against Florida State, but its other two wins against Tulsa and Missouri just don't compete with what LSU has done.  I'm also encouraged to see that the media has taken this into account, unlike the coaches who will only move a team down if it loses.

5/6. Oklahoma State

The Big 12 belongs to the state of Oklahoma, as both of the state's teams are ranked no worse than 6th in any of the polls. What's hilarious to me here, however, is that while the Cowboys jump two spots in the AP poll after beating a Texas A&M team that was ranked 8th last week, the coaches keep Oklahoma State at 6th. They are very impressed with your win on the road, Oklahoma State! Just not enough to actually make any changes. They're still much more impressed by Stanford's wins over bad teams like San Jose State, Duke and Arizona. I won't complain too much about Boise State being ahead of the Cowboys here, but that's debatable as well.

14/13. Texas A&M

As you'd expect, the Aggies tumble in the polls this week following the loss at home against Oklahoma State. It's a logic that is rather hard to really argue against, though I suppose there are a number of undefeated teams below A&M in the polls that could raise a fuss if they wanted to. The real question for the Aggies at this point though is how far will they climb or fall in the polls after facing Arkansas this weekend. They weren't able to get the Oklahoma State monkey off their back, can they get the Razorback off their monkey? (That's a terrible joke, but I'm not going to apologize for it.)

15/16. Baylor

Well look who is moving on up. Yes it's odd that pollsters are showing more respect for Baylor following a win against Rice than they did for the win against TCU, but I don't think Baylor is going to complain. The fact that they appear in a poll is good enough for the Baylor faithful as it is, the fact that the Bears keep on climbing is like a dream. This team goes as high as Robert Griffin wants to take it.

17/17. Texas

Sometimes taking a week off can work to your benefit, and that's exactly what happened for Texas this week. It was able to just sit on the sidelines while a couple of teams ranked above it lost, and the Longhorns get the bye week bump because of it. While the win over UCLA last week made me a lot more optimistic about the Longhorns this season than I had been, as I've said for weeks, this ranking is a bit to high for my tastes. We'll have to wait and see what happens when the Longhorns head to Ames this Saturday looking for revenge.

Others Receiving Votes

Iowa State

Iowa State also received a bye week bump this week, which is somewhat rare for teams that weren't already ranked to begin with. Voters tend to forget about you when you weren't already on the ballot and didn't play. Still, the Cyclones manage to creep ever closer to having that heralded number next to their name, and if they pull off a win against Texas this weekend, I have a feeling they'll finally get it. 

Kansas State

How do you get voters to notice your 3-0 start to the season? You go down to South Beach and beat Miami, that's how. Things have really turned around since the opening week of the season when the Wildcats struggled to beat Eastern Kentucky 10-7. At the moment, receiving a few votes here and there is exactly where Kansas State deserves to be, but if it can pull off a win against Baylor on Saturday, it might sneak into the rankings next week. 

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Since: Jan 17, 2007
Posted on: September 27, 2011 5:28 pm

Big 12 poll reactions, Week 4

Well, Reddirt, thanks for making both sides of the argument!  And though the point about SIDs doing the voting instead of the coaches, it may be "tired", but you can't deny that it's 100 percent true, and always has been.  The only games the coaches see are the tapes of next week's opponent!  The SIDs typcially vote their own teams as high as realitically possible, and downgrade other teams that are competitive with their own.  The coaches poll is a complete fraud, and "Bob from Wabash" probably has a far bettet take than the SIDs.

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: September 27, 2011 1:28 pm

Big 12 poll reactions, Week 4

I agree.  Boise St. would be a good to great addition.  Nevada or BYU would be at least as good & competitive as Colorado.  If Boise St. wants respect & wants to claim they can play anybody in a major conference week in & week out, & have a realistic shot at the BCS championship game, then they should want to join the Big XII.  I'm not sure if the rest of the conference (Texas, OU, Mizzou, etc.) would want a strong new kid on the block that may actually be a contender.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: September 27, 2011 12:00 pm

Big 12 poll reactions, Week 4

If the Big 12 big wigs had a brain in their skull they would invite Boise State and Nevada a.s.a.p. before their conference no longer exists...

Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: September 26, 2011 5:40 pm

Big 12 poll reactions, Week 4

"I'm also encouraged to see that the media has taken this into account, unlike the coaches who will only move a team down if it loses."

Right.  Because a guy at a laptop knows much more than the coaches who live the game.  Let's just stop bothering to play the games and let the tool at the Wabash Gazette determine who should win each game?

Coaches understand better the ups and downs of a season and aren't as easily swayed by the "flavor of the month" being hyped by the media spin machine.  And before I hear the tired excuse that coaches don't actually do their voting, I would challenge that notion and also say,  the coaches that actually do relegate their votes to the SID's...I would argue that an SID knows just as much and is just as qualified to vote as Bob from Wabash.

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