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USF President: Big East looking to other states

Posted on: September 27, 2011 7:04 pm
Edited on: September 27, 2011 7:11 pm
Posted by Chip Patterson

South Florida president Judy Grenshaft was speaking to Florida legislators on Tuesday when she was questioned directly about the school's reported "blocking" of UCF as a new member for the Big East. Grenshaft began vehemently denying the reports, and offered her own update on the league's "aggressive" efforts to replace Pittsburgh and Syracuse.

"I am not stopping any university from coming in," Grenshaft explained. "What is happening is the league, or the conference, now is looking at schools and they have looked very much at schools that are not in any of the states that are represented by the Big East schools right now. The ones that they're looking at right now, they do not sit in any state that the Big East schools are currently in."

What it appears Grenshaft is trying to say, is that the conference is focused on expanding their footprint beyond the current reach. Or maybe she's trying to say there is a gentleman/gentlewoman agreement amongst the university leaders to not add a school from a state currently occupied by a conference members, similar to the SEC.

Whatever she was trying to say, she didn't do a very good job of conveying the message clearly.

However if the conference is looking at schools that are not currently in a Big East-occupied state, it would fall right in line with the report from's Brett McMurphy that Navy and Air Force were close to joining before the recent ACC exodus. It is still believed that the two service academies would be first choices for the Big East's football expansion, and there is currently no Big East team in Maryland or Colorado.

If her statements regarding the potential candidates for Big East expansion are true, it would rule out UCF. It would also rule out Houston if she's counting TCU as part of the Big East footprint, and it would rule out Villanova and/or Temple if she's counting Pittsburgh as a "current" member. Such a stipulation would be good news for a school like East Carolina, who recently applied for membership and has been reaching out to local leaders for help their cause.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 12:53 am

USF President: Big East looking to other states

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Since: Jun 23, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 2:42 pm

USF President: Big East looking to other states

As I think more about this situation with the Big East.. I think the Big East needs to do the following:
1. Tell Notre Dame to make a choice, they are all in (all sports, including football) or hit the door, completely.

2. Expand... invite UMass, Army, Navy, UCF, Memphis, ECU, and Marshall.

3.  Invite (for basketball reasons) Butler, VCU, George Mason, and Xavier.

What do you guys think?

Since: Oct 4, 2011
Posted on: October 4, 2011 8:01 pm

USF President: Big East looking to other states

Ah well not adding schools in the same states that the Big East is in would be not be smart in my opinion.  First off the Big East is losing New York and Pennsylvania with Syacruse and Pittsburgh leaving.  Yes they still have Villanova and St. John's in other sports in those states, but thats not going to cut it in keeping their market share.  Not knocking South Florida or TCU, but you can still gain vaulable market share by adding schools in Texas and Florida, which are large states.  You would also get vaulable traveling partners, which helps for the other sports.  A lot of schools have been mentioned but UCF, Houston/SMU have to be options.  Back to states that the Big East is losing, in Pennsylvania, you have Villanova and Temple.  In New York you have Army, more of a national limited following.  Same with Navy in Maryland.  ECU in North Carolina, Memphis in Tennessee, are interesting option as well.  Tulsa in Oklahoma, Tulane in Louisania, Buffalo in New York, and UMass in Massachusetts are lower tier options.

If you went mega conference, you could add UCF, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, ECU, Navy, Villanova (football), Temple, Buffalo, Army, UMass, but thats like a total of 20 football schools and 27, wait add Bulter as a non football member for 28 BB schools.  Ha, ha since that is not happening.

I guess you need at least 3 football schools and at least one all sport of those 3 football schools at a minimum.  For the minimum number of additions, but maximum market share, you could do Navy and Army as football only, and either Houston/UCF/Temple as all sports.

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: September 28, 2011 9:31 am

USF President: Big East looking to other states

Hey: let's see if we can get BYU and BSU in the Big East, and Miami and FSU in the Pac 12.

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