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Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

Posted on: October 9, 2011 12:35 pm
Edited on: October 9, 2011 6:16 pm
Posted by Chip Patterson

Following the news of TCU's plans to accept an invitation to join the Big 12, the presidents of the remaining Big East schools participated in a conference call Friday morning to discuss the league's future. Contrary to some reports no official decisions or announcements came from the meeting, but all signs point to the conference extending invitations to membership in the near future.

One of the schools frequently listed as a target for football is Air Force.'s Brett McMurphy reported that the conference was targeting Navy and Air Force before Syracuse and Pittsburgh bolted for the ACC. Even with the league now looking at only six football programs moving forward, Air Force athletic director Hans Mueh is still interested in the idea of joining the Big East.

"Our interest is high in the Big East. That's fair to say," Mueh told The Denver Post on Saturday. "This stuff is moving fast."

Mueh pointed out that his ideal scenario involves Air Force, Navy and Army all making the move to participating in the Big East for football, but there were no certainties in the discussions. The Falcons were listed by some as a possible target for Big 12 expansion after Texas and Oklahoma announced their intentions to stay in the league. Mueh confirmed on Saturday the school was approached by the Big 12, to which the AD said "no thanks."

"We were approached by the Big 12, and I told them we're not a good fit for that conference. In the Big 12, geography makes sense, the economics make sense, but the recruiting makes no sense for us. I can't recruit against Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State," Mueh explained.

"That's why I turned down the Big 12. I can't do that to my kids, because they'll get beat up. I'd love the extra $12 million or whatever it would be per year from the TV money. And I know how I'd spend the money. I'd build a new soccer stadium, and I'd build a new baseball facility, all in one year. But I can't do that."

Interesting take from the Air Force AD. He also said the Big East "absolutely" wants Army. But there are strong sentiments within the Army community that making the move to Big East conference play may be detrimental to the program in similar ways the Falcons were concerned about the Big East.

Action is expected from the league in the coming weeks regarding football expansion. In addition to the service academies, East Carolina, Central Florida, and Temple have been listed as candidates. The key for the league will be to find a program that fits with the other schools, while still maintaining the football success necessary to retain their automatic bid to the Bowl Championship Series.

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Since: Sep 1, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 11:53 am

Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

This stinks. I want to see the old days of conference play.
This super conference stuff is anti fan.

Since: Oct 11, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 3:43 am

How do you say no to the Big 12??!!

I do not see how a move to the Big East would benifit Air Force!  The traveling back East alone would lose you 2 to 3 games a year. You play ARMY and NAVY every year, you don't need to join there conference. You pass up better competition, more money, a larger fan base, marketablitiy, the ability to recruit more talented players, and the oppourtunity for cadets to play football at a high level.  Oh and recruiting, News Flash! No one in the Big 12 recruits against Texas and Oklahoma.  Frankly A
ir Force cannot recruit against BSU or TCU!  That is why we have the triple option to take away that advantage.  Does AD Mueh forget we have beaten ND on numorous occassions, gone to the wire with big names like Tenn, Oklahoma, VaTech, and so forth.   The will power and hearts that these fine young men and women have for competition can not be underestimated. It is a slap in the face to the all cadets that come to the Academy and a slap in the face to all student athletes.  It is not fair to the players to cower in the Big Least, a conference worse than the Mountain West.  I am beside myself with AF turning down the Big 12 and even more perplexed in wanting to be in the Big East. If anything please stay in the Mountain-Wac conference that is due to merge.
"I can't do that to my kids, because they'll get beat up."  They are 18-22 year old men, just like everyone else out there! They will recover just as they do now, no difference.  These young men came to play at the Academy to compete against the best. This schedule takes a toll talk is absolute rubish. Northwestern competes in the Big 10, Duke in the ACC, Stanford in the PAC-12.  It is not just about football either. As an Academy Grad, I am dissapointed with the vision of the Air Force Academy Athletic Department. 

David Peterson -- Class of 2005   

Since: Oct 11, 2011
Posted on: October 11, 2011 1:02 am

Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

Slow Ten? Very funny coming from somebody supporting a crumbling, crap of a conference in the little 12. I'd rather be "slow" than the laughing stock of the entire country. Why are you comparing the little 12 to the B1G and PAC anyways? It has nothing to do with the original comment. Sounds like somebody is a little resentful for being snubbed by the PAC when Texas wouldn't give up the LHN.

Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: October 10, 2011 10:35 pm

Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

Earth to topdogg, losing NU and aTm hurt, but cu was a worthless constantly in debt program with a fickle fan base that barely got 40k to game in good years and is always playing second fiddle to pro teams in Denver. No the Big12 does not miss them in anyway shape or form.

As for the BIG12, the rumors of its demise have been greatly exaggerated. The LHN cannot even find a carrier and will soon be forced into becoming the conference network to save espn's hide. Were not a part time conference like the big least and we have SPEED on the football field unlike the slow ten and have fan bases that actually give a damn aout our teams unlike the PAC and its 30k per home game (guess what was the only BCS conference to have a decline in attendance in 2010? The Pac!). 

Since: Oct 10, 2011
Posted on: October 10, 2011 6:52 pm

Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

really? like to see you prove that point. wvu has 2 bcs wins over georgia and oklahoma. that lone is worth more than anything the 3 teams you named have accomplished. not too mention, this is said every year. the big east is bad, doesnt deserve it.  but the big east outperforms the acc and big ten in bowl season on a regular basis. just look at some stats for bowl seasons in the last few years....the big east is no where near as bad as everyone likes to make it out. point was proven when wvu played oklahoma...49 states said we'd lose....only one had any sense. wvu spanked oklahoma....for the record, lets also ask this fun question for those oklahoma fans and doubters of the big east....who's the only team to beat oklahoma on their season open...yep. wvu. not too mention, if the big east is so bad...and has been so bad. why is that everyone is poaching their teams and coaches? rich rod to michigan (thank god, always hated him anyways), kelly to nd, etzel to maryland; bc, miami and va tech to acc, cuse and pitt now going there.  truth is, the big east should be looking at itself and did we let this all happen. 

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: October 10, 2011 6:43 pm

Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

Sooo....BYU and Air Force are not happening.  West Virginia is quite a ways away making them a tough add-in.  Louisville is closer and makes more sense but could get an invite from the ACC if and when the Big East implodes which is much more appealing than the Big 12.  In fact, the ACC could potentially add UConn and Louisville errrr Jim Calhoun and Rick Pitino to their conference to pair up with Roy Williams, Mike Krzyzewski, newly acquired Jim Boeheim, etc.

Anyways, back to the subject.  The Big 12 is still as volatile as ever before.  Mizzou still looking around.  TCU hardly replaces A&M.  NU and CU already gone.  The conference was just shot down by AIR FORCE which is embarrassing to say the least.  Better try Tulane and Houston in order to get to 12 schools and hope Mizzou sticks around.  Nevertheless, these 3 schools will NOT replace what the Big 12 would've had in revenue with A&M, NU, and CU but at least you're not going under like the Big East....yet.

Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: October 10, 2011 5:47 pm

Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

Somebody please put the Big East outr of its misery and end whats left of the conference. The automatic bid the conference gets to the BCS is more ridicolous than the BCS itself. The Mountain West with Utah-BYU-TCU was light years ahead of the Big East talent wise. 

Since: Nov 8, 2009
Posted on: October 10, 2011 4:50 pm

Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

I am so happy Air Force is a school that is not following the money trail. Mueh knows we can't compete in any category with a school in B12 conference that's above .500 right now- on the field, recruiting, etc.

Since: Oct 6, 2011
Posted on: October 10, 2011 3:30 pm

Air Force AD: Interest 'high' in Big East

They should add Temple and UMass for all sports and Army, Navy, Air Force and ECU football-only. They currently do not have a team in Massachusetts, since they lost Boston College. UMass will be FBS next season and are a better choice than UCF where USF is already in the territory of the center of Florida.

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