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UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

Posted on: October 19, 2011 12:30 pm
Edited on: October 19, 2011 1:13 pm
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Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Want to know how things wound up so heated between Georgia and Vanderbilt Saturday night? This video from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution should help explain things:



That's Commodore center Logan Stewart diving into the back of Bulldog nose tackle Kwame Geathers' legs after the play was over, and Geathers throwing a punch in retaliation. The SEC has responded by suspending both players for their teams' next half-game, as well as Georgia safety Shawn Williams, flagged for multiple personal fouls during the game.

The league is also officially reviewing the postgame fracas between the two coaching staffs, and it stood to reason they'd want to take a closer look at any plays that might have led to it ... particularly when one of those plays includes a thrown punch. Both retaliations like Geathers' and egregious clips like Stewart's resulted in half-game suspensions for other players in 2010, so it's not a surprise to see something similar for Geathers and Stewart here.

Vandy head coach James Franklin said he expected to hear on a possible punishment for Stewart sometime Wednesday.

Though the 'Dores won't be happy losing Stewart for any period of time against a tricky Army program this Saturday, the suspensions are an even greater blow for Geathers, Williams and the Dawgs--with a bye on tap for Saturday, the defenders will be forced to sit for the first half of the World's Largest Cocktail Party showdown against Florida.

We don't blame the SEC for suspending either Geathers or Stewart; while Geathers is fully justified in being angry (and even in reacting angirly in some fashion) a thrown punch is by this point universally recognized as just cause for a suspension. But it would have been nice if the SEC sent a message about Stewart's play by handing him a greater punishment than Geathers'--say, a full game to Geather's half. If we're comparing the two offenses, there's no question in this blogger's mind which one is more likely to result in an injury, which is more premeditated and less emotional, or which falls further outside the bounds of acceptable conduct on the football field. Geathers' punch probably hurt, but Stewart's clip might have ended Geathers' career, and came far too late to have anything to do with the play.

However things finally shake out, this much is certain: next year's meeting between the Dawgs and 'Dores is going to be far spicier than any game featuring Vandy and an SEC East power typically is.
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Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 10:11 am
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

 We will be even stronger when we face you next year. Roll Tide. 


Ok I dont get this why is a GA fan saying "Roll Tide"? 



Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 10:06 am
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

I am UGA fan and agree that Williams suspension is warranted.  However, to take up for Franklin really shows your homerism. 

And trying to take a defenseless player out by going for his knees when his backed is turned?  Stay classy Vandy and enjoy the 50 Richt hangs on your arses next year when you come to Athens.

First, I am not taking up for Franklin.  Far from it.  Look at some of the misinformation being tossed out by a bunch of homer UGA fans, who dont have a clue as to what really happened.  I'm not not going to waste my time copying some of those comments, but there is a big difference in what they posted and what actually happened.

I posted that Franklin could have handled it differently and I dont agree with his antics, but as he made clear in his postgame comments and his press conference on Monday, the days of VANDY just taking it and being the SEC's whipping boy are over.  He cant control the final score, but he isnt going to let a punk, that played anything but a clean game, run his mouth after the game was over, and disrespect VANDY.  As he said, "those days are over." 

Franklin has already had an impact, and that is the latest example of the job he has before him.  Changing the mindset on West End is probably going to be just as hard as getting players that can go out and win.  If Saturday night is indicative of changing the mindset, he is well on his way.

As a head coach you have to restrain yourself at times

That may be true in theory, but not even close to reality. There has never been a coach that hasnt lost it, for what ever reason, at least once in their career.  Show me one that hasnt. 

that includes mouthing off at players from opposing teams.  He should have gone straight to Georgia Coach Mark Richt and discussed it with him.  Instead he acts like a pansy and gets the same treatment in return from Todd Grantham - who IMO was out of line too (to a degree). 

Once again, Williams was giving Franklin down the road.  Franklin could have done what you suggest, but didnt.  Could he have handled it differently?  Absolutely.  Did he?  Not even close.  An opposing player that had been in the middle of the action all night was gving him down the road.  Given the way things unfolded and how the game ended seconds before caused him to react the way he did. 

You might want to get your facts straight about Grantham.  There are numerous eye witness accounts that Franklin was trying to tell Grantham the reason he was responding to Williams the way he was.  Instead of listening, Grantham went off on Franklin.  That amounted to a 2 wrongs making a right situation.  It wasnt until Richt and Franklin got together, that Franklin was able to tell Richt what had happened. 

Richt's response, caught on video, can not be repeated here, but he did not mince words in describing Williams and and Grantham's actions. 

And trying to take a defenseless player out by going for his knees when his backed is turned?  Stay classy Vandy and enjoy the 50 Richt hangs on your arses next year when you come to Athens.


There is no excuse for what Stewart did to Geathers.  That should never happen and I am sorry it did.  Stewart got a suspension as a result and should have.

Talk is cheap atl.  UGA hasnt hung 50 on VANDY since 1987, and that was against VANDY.  Franklin has brought a new attitude to town, and UGA may hang 50 on them next year, but given the landscape on West End, if Saturday night is any indication, that wont happen.









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Since: Oct 17, 2011
Posted on: October 19, 2011 11:13 pm
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Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:11 pm
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

while Geathers is fully justified in being angry (and even in reacting angirly in some fashion) a thrown punch is by this point universally recognized as just cause for a suspension.
So you wanna ask the SEC Commissioners office why BJ Bostic of Florida was not suspended for throwing a punch at a Bama player?  Same offense and no punishment.  Sounds like some schools are overlooked regarding certain offenses. 



Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:04 pm
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

Franklin could have handled it differently. He made it perfectly clear that VANDY was no longer going to take it and be the SEC's whipping boy.  Far from it.  With Williams running his mouth, it is easy to understand why he reacted the way he did.
I am UGA fan and agree that Williams suspension is warranted.  However, to take up for Franklin really shows your homerism.  As a head coach you have to restrain yourself at times and that includes mouthing off at players from opposing teams.  He should have gone straight to Georgia Coach Mark Richt and discussed it with him.  Instead he acts like a pansy and gets the same treatment in return from Todd Grantham - who IMO was out of line too (to a degree). 

And trying to take a defenseless player out by going for his knees when his backed is turned?  Stay classy Vandy and enjoy the 50 Richt hangs on your arses next year when you come to Athens.



Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 10:00 pm
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

You can add dirty players to the stereotypes of Vanderbilt along with conference doormat.



Since: Jan 21, 2007
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:46 pm
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

This just in...... I got suspended for one hour from work for reading this article.......



Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:18 pm
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

I don't get the Shawn Williams suspension.  I don't recall anything suspension-worthy out of him and from listening to other posters, it sounds like one of his penalties was a bad call where he was actually trying to break up a fight.

If all you are reading is this blog and reading these posts, that is not surprising.  Williams was in the middle of the action all night.  You wont know it from reading anything on CBS, so here is a link to the article on ESPN.  He was suspended for a hit on a play that he was not even flagged for.  That was in adddition to the 2 personal fouls, constanct chirping and even standing in the line of sight of the plays being signaled i from the sideline.  He was running his mouth big time after the game was over.  That was what got Franklin hot and that is what he was trying to tell Grantham.  From everything that has been reported here in Nashville, sounds like he is a piece of work. 





Since: Sep 18, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 9:05 pm
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

Be aware of more than what the media reports before you speak.

Like you?  Give me a break, the way you describe it is not how things unfolded.  Far from it.  Franklin reacted to what Williams did on the field and running his mouth, both during the game and after. 
Like this blog?  He mentioned that Williams got multiple personal foul penalties, but he got suspended for a hit that was not even flagged.  Why was that not mentioned?

Franklin could have handled it differently. He made it perfectly clear that VANDY was no longer going to take it and be the SEC's whipping boy.  Far from it.  With Williams running his mouth, it is easy to understand why he reacted the way he did.



Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2011 8:47 pm
 

UGA's Geathers, VU's Stewart suspended

A half game?  The NCAA is a disgrace.  Why not just let the players do whatever they want to do?  A half game?  Really?  And where are the schools in all of this?  Is this acceptble conduct?  Are you guys good with the joke of a half game suspension?  Is that what your schools are about?  I'm watching.  It will be interesting to see what the schools do.  Crap schools, so I guess nothing.


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