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Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

Posted on: October 23, 2011 12:52 am
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Posted by Adam Jacobi

Here's the insane final play of Michigan State's 37-31 last-second victory over Wisconsin on Saturday, a 44-yard touchdown off a deflected Hail Mary from Kirk Cousins to Keith Nichol:

It's clear that Nichol swings his arm over the goal line and that it would be physically impossible for the ball not to have crossed the plane. But since we can't see the ball, some folks might have a problem with calling that "indisputable" evidence.

So here's a screencap that shows, indisputably, that the ball crossed the plane and Keith Nichol did indeed score a touchdown:


(Click for bigger size photo)

The officials got this call right. That is not opinion; that is fact. 

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Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: October 23, 2011 11:05 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

Here's the ball.  If can't see it, please see your ophthalmologist or psychiatrist because you are in clinical denial.

 




Since: Oct 4, 2009
Posted on: October 23, 2011 10:22 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

Once blown up, I can see it now.  You're correct.



Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: October 23, 2011 4:06 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

Ughghghgh!

1st -- not a fan of either of these teams.  It was, upon review, clearly a TD. I didn't think it was at first, and didn't want it to be -- I wanted OT -- like a diabetic craves coca-cola and chocolate.
The second caption should read "The BOOTH officials got this call right. That is not opinion; that is fact." The refs on the field called it dead at the 1 yard line. CFB rules:

1) The ball (any part) must break the plane of the goal line.
2) The "plane" in question is actually the right-hand line of the goal-line paint in this instance. The paint to the picture's left is crud for the stadium fan & TV viewing audience to see the goal line. Hearken unto this -- TD's that just touch the pylon that count.  Compare.
3) As far as I know, in the case of an offense / defense tie-up the ball still goes to the offense.
4) ergo ... TD


Good job MSU -- though, great road comeback Wiskey ...



Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: October 23, 2011 3:16 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

I don't even think this screen cap is the best example of the play. The combined momentum of Nichol swinging to the goal line hasn't even peaked in this frame. It's a half second later. When watching the replay, when Taylor goes to swing him around and out, at that time Nichol is easily past the goal line. 



Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: October 23, 2011 2:44 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

Wow, those Wisconsin defenders reacted quickly.  It looks as though the ball crossed the line.



Since: Aug 15, 2008
Posted on: October 23, 2011 2:24 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

The tip of the ball is underneath the Michigan State player's chin.  You can see the tip.  Hint:  It's brown.  The article is saying that the replay clip viewed by the officials could be considered disputable but that this screen cap is not because it shows the ball breaking the plane.  It's indisputable for that reason.



Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: October 23, 2011 2:22 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

My eyesight is pretty good and I don't see the ball.


I have to assume here that you didn't click on the picture.  If you couldn't see the ball in the full sized screen cap, you don't have pretty good eyesight.  You are completely blind.  That said, I agree the angle is somewhat difficult to determine.  If it was in fact taken from the goal line, or very close to it, than the ball indisputably crossed the plane.  I'm guessing the refs know where the camera was, so I'll give then the benefit of the doubt.



Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: October 23, 2011 2:06 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

Yes,  was rooting for Wisconsin. The ruling on the field is no touchdown and I don't see indisputable evidence to overturn. My eyesight is pretty good and I don't see the ball. The angle looks slightly in front of the goal line and it is also raised which changes perception.  I just don't see indisputable evidence though.



Since: Oct 4, 2009
Posted on: October 23, 2011 1:41 am
 

Yes, Keith Nichol indisputably scored a touchdown

Please point out the ball in this picture.  It actually looks like it is in 53 of WI's hands.  It appears inline of the outside edge of the falling WI defender who's arm is inline with the defender on the ground, which is in-line with the goal-line.  The fact that the ball can not be seen, does, in fact, make the replay disputable. The back judge is standing directly in front of the play and called no touchdown.  If he called touchdown, it stands. He did not.  No touchdown.  
I actually think it was a touchdown. But it was not one by the rules that the game is currently governed by. Great game, epic ending. 


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