Hey Nolongerafan
Just for the record I dont claim OJ Mayo he was a one and done and didnt do much for SC when he was there anyway. As for the Bush thing. I hate what his either family or himself did to the program (which we are still paying for) because it was selfish. Where i do separate things is when i look at what he did on the field. Nothing he has been accused of helped him on the field to gain an advantage. He was one of the best college football players i have ever seen and most can agree with that. He was amazing and had a great career.  He also has some what resurrected his pro career this past year. 
I also agree to no end that anytime these kids start talking about how they dont think they need any kind of education because they are going to go pro i have them do a little math about the odds of making it and also the numbers on how they need to live work spend on camps and equipment. Its funny to see the light turn either on or off in these kids. Its also great to see how it works in it divides the ones who truly have a chance and those who will never make it through high school sports.  

It's so funny how some relationships forge on these boards through misunderstandings, disagreements, or humble pie (to the degree they can be obviously). 

Yeah, well I think it's because nobody can read intent or sarcasm or tongue-in-check humor in the written language without using emoticons...and I hate emoticons...  Good luck with the single parenthood thing, I know I couldn't do it without my wife, and that's the largest reason I would never jeopardize our marriage...cause she is better at everything than I am .  

I wish you both luck in raising your children to not be spineless and weak, and also find a healthy balance between seeking their dreams and being honest with expectations.

Touche' (lol) and thanks. Btw, I wish I had help raising these two great little guys, but unfortunately it wasn't meant to be, I'll leave it at that.

It's so funny how some relationships forge on these boards through misunderstandings, disagreements, or humble pie (to the degree they can be obviously).

Thanks again and good luck to the Ducks next season...

LSUSMC: Is that the "Tebowie" video? Really funny. I respect Tebow a lot and believe that if anyone can overcome bad early training, he is definitely the one. But certain segments of his public need to lighten up as this is about football. Others need to wait before proclaiming him defunct as the returns will be out a year or two.

I remember Bobby Douglass.  My guess would be that you would have to go back all the way to him to find a starting QB with a similar completion percentage to Tebow.  Both were/are great power runners for QB's, but that is not the game now, or even then.  I do think today's game is set up for the passer, and Tebow is not that.  I like the young man and hope he becomes more of that.  The fans seem to either love or hate him, so that is an interesting dynamic for me to watch. 

As an aside, have you seen the Jimmy Fallon video about Tebow.  It is worth a look if you have not. 

lsusmc: The only similar example I can derive is the experiment by the early-1970's Chicago Bears playing two running QBs, "Handsome Jack" Concannon and Bobby "Stronger than Dirt" Douglass, great nicknames for great pure athletes. Both may in their own ways have been better runners than Tebow (no insult). Concannon had sprinter's speed and Douglass was an incredibly powerful, rambling romper-stomper who could run over the LBs of the day, bounce up and do it again. The running succeeded but not the team. A QB paired with Tebow may need to throw more effectively than Handsome Jack and Douglass, who couldn't throw effectively reliably whether running or in the pocket. The LBs and DLs today are so much bigger and faster than the early 1970's that the well- being of a running QB today is in question, and Bobby Douglass was a real brute. It worked to an extent this year and may again but the Broncos will have to face down those fast scoring opponents. In my opinion, Tebow's throwing motion is much improved. Nevertheless, the challenge before the Broncos is daunting, much more so because of the polarized fan opinions.

Chip did not want him to leave, and tried to talk him out of it. But the young man had a great career and is leaving on a high note. He is far better than looks but that may not translate to the NFL. If the NCAA does anything at all it will be minor. Then again most in the pac 12 are jellous of Oregon success and are hoping against hope for the ncaa to beat them down, since they are the 3x defending pac 12 champs and do their talking on the field.

LSUSMC: Do you think the Broncos can continue using the option style offense used this seaon or do they need to transition closer to the current pro style? A team wants to build around a QB by all means but does Denver risk limiting the team if Tebow is slow in the transition? I believe he will succeed, but how soon?

Excellent question, for which I have no good answer.  I do not know if the option offense has any chance to work in the NFL, but if it does, a team will surely need more than one QB that can run it.  From where Denver is coming from, I think it may be worth a shot to try.  Of course, they need Tebow to get a lot more accurate if he is ever going to truly succeed.  I know he is a hard worker and all, but his fundamentals are still terrible and he just completed his second season in the league.  I guess he is having a hard time breaking his old bad habits.  I will say that Tebow has been slow in his transition and he has limited the team, but he is still young, and they did win a playoff game this year.  The better Tebow gets at throwing, the more pro style stuff you can put in your offense.  Until then, it will be interesting to watch. 

LSUSMC: Do you think the Broncos can continue using the option style offense used this seaon or do they need to transition closer to the current pro style? A team wants to build around a QB by all means but does Denver risk limiting the team if Tebow is slow in the transition? I believe he will succeed, but how soon?