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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Since: Nov 2, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 1:34 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Couple things..Did you notice how i said ironic considering OSU this past year? Oh you blew by that one? The whole joe pa thing was obsurd. He said he should have done more, with that said, try vilifying the guy who commtted the crime..not the guy whose name you know. Name some other notable things big ten coaches have done? i can name stuff from half the SEC teams have done that are questionable. The big ten has alot more morals than the SEC. I expect to get ripped on these boards this site is an SEC breeding ground for homers. Its funny though that as i call out morality, many of you went right into...Big 10 better get into cheating or get left behind..just like i said.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 1:29 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I'll bet you're a "Family Values" kinda guy who is supporting Newt Gingrich too Laughing

Actually, I'll support just about anyone who can beat the socialist piece of crap we have in office now.

Since: Mar 10, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 1:21 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

 the reason those players went to Meyer is HIS record as one of the winningest HCs with 5 full years, .819 W %age and SIX BCS/CONF Championships in 10 seasons.

Face it, what young player in their right mind wouldn't want to play for Meyer while about 7 of his players were in the NFL Playoffs and two of them will be key players in Sunday's SB for the Patriots.

real rocket science there I'll tell ya.

Since: Mar 10, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 1:19 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Your statement of "morality or not" shows you have the class of most SEC fans and coaches. You have no clue of what is important in life.
Funny, a Big Ten fan castigating the SEC on their morality and way of life? Innocent

I seem to remember that:
- Meyer is replacing one massive hypocrite who was fired in disgrace from OSU for covering up known violations while criticizing other programs
- Penn State's Coach was fired in even more disgrace while PSU executive management are facing criminal charges for what might be the most unethical, immoral and disgusting cover-up in the history of ALL sports.

Way to keep it classy Big Ten!!! Takin the high road for sure. 
I'm so pleased to see that reality has no effect on you whatsoever...
I'll bet you're a "Family Values" kinda guy who is supporting Newt Gingrich too Laughing

Since: Nov 6, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 12:41 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Recruiting is no different than any other business... You are fair game until you sign on the dotted line.  The Big Ten better get up to speed on recruiting... this is not a gentlemans job... better be a man and fight for what you want.  Meyer is a good recruiter, he will tell the student anything to get him to sign.  He did it at Florida and it eventually caught up with him and he was unable to recruit the top talent.  It will happen at OSU.  The spread will not work in the Big Ten for long.

The reason the SEC has won 6 straight NC's is because they can recruit and recruits know they will be a winner and possible play for a NC if they go to the SEC.   Big Ten has had their buts handed to them by the SEC, both football and basketball.

Since: Nov 16, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 12:06 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

it you just believe all that load of crap you just spewed....then i got some land in lousiana to sell you...really man? what about mr. hokie? not one word was said how he was poaching from osu when tressel go fired....this is all a load of crap. kids change there minds. coaches change kids minds...and when it comes down to it. it will be a fight to the finish every year. the sec competes for the best recruits everyyear. if your team doesn't fight, but intsead rolls over dead when they loose a recruit. that my friend is not the coach that stoled the recruit fault. instead, higher a coach that will keep the athlete student there. which means, they have to work constantly to keep that player from leaving, instead of oh we got him lets move on. so lets hear some more belly aching. you will see those players for the next 4 years....have fun watching your team loose! lmao

Since: Feb 3, 2012
Posted on: February 3, 2012 12:01 pm


Like Ohio State wasn't already crooked as hell under Sweater Vest Boy, proprietor of Tressel's Tattoo and Pawn Shop.

Since: Nov 2, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:44 am

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Listen, what Meyer did was legal. All he did was talk kids into changing their minds. Everyone is fair game until the LOI is signed. With that said, other "illegal" things may have happened that we do not know about. And yes, Meyers is a classless individual. He showed it at florida many times. I just hope OSU realizes what they are getting themselves into. They did get a great coach but now you have a coach who brings questionable ethics to their university (ironic considering the last year at OSU). The overall ethics in the Big 10 is different than in the SEC. Football is important up here but not as much as in the south. Down there football is life and if you aint cheatin you aint tryin'. With that said, people up here for the most part would rather have a well run ethical league "gentlemans league" than what Slive runs in the SEC. This will be interesting to see which direction the league goes. Will the Big 10 adapt to Meyers practices or will he have to adapt to the Big 10?

Either way, what he did according to this article was legal. It sucks but it was legal. As for the author of this are an SEC homer and your opinion is idiotic. Your statement of "morality or not" shows you have the class of most SEC fans and coaches. You have no clue of what is important in life.

Since: Feb 20, 2010
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:14 am

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

how are michigan st and wisconsin bad they had the two best record the past two years

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 11:09 am

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

You guys are hilarious.  Meyer didn't invent agressive recruiting- he just learned to use an I-Phone.  All these bigtime coaches con these kids all the time.  It's like the prettiest girl on campus- every guy with hetero urges lines up to turn her pretty head.  They all try their lines.  How many of them break engagements?  Plenty.  Until you march her down the aisle and get her I-Do- the LOI, it's all's fair in love and war.  Kids change their minds all the time.  Adults are putting unreasonable pressure on 17-18 year old kids and making their lives a living he!! during the recruiting process.  Who can blame them if they get confused by all the attention? 

If you have the loser's need to blame someone- blame ESPN.  They line up caps on a table and put these kids on national T.V. just so they can play emotional games with the coaches, fans, and universities- tweaking the nose of the rivals.  The All Star games are no better.  So, unless you want to ban equal access, or insist that commitments be binding- you have to wait until the LOI arrives.  Otherwise, get the NCAA to allow commits to sign the LOI right away.  The waiting period is there for a reason.  The decision affects the rest of the kid's life. 

Let's face it- a few schools have had it there own way for a long time, and they don't want to face the cometition.  Well, it's not officially a welfare state yet.  Get in the free market and compete.  Maybe the B1G will become relevant again instead of living with their heads firmly planted in their dark orifice. 

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