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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Comments

Since: Sep 28, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:10 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

You are right about one thing though, Fornelli:  the SEC, Meyer, USC and OSU have shown the road to success:  Cheat or lose.  And even if you get caught, the gains will far outweigh the penalties.  It is a simple as the "Learned Hand" formula taught to every first year law student:  if the gains from cheating outweigh the penalties from getting caught, then you must cheat.  The NCAA has become a complete joke and scum like Meyer are thumbing their noses at the system.



Since: Sep 28, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:07 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," . "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end."  Duh.  What a surprise that scumbag Urban Meyer and slimy Ohio got married.  OSU alums, fresh off paying players and buying them cars to attend "school" in columbus, must be overjoyed that the laughable NCAA "penalties" were so light that Meyer and the boosters have no deterrent to paying criminals/recruits.  OSU fans can crow all they want, but everyone knows every victory they attain will be dirty, at the very least the indirect result of cheating.



Since: Jan 13, 2010
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:03 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Who said anything about bad ethics? Meyer just went in and took players who hadn't signed on the dotted line, which ticked off the other coaches. Meyer is going to win at OSU and the rest of the "Not so Big10" better keep up. As long as he isn't violating NCAA regs he can go snake any player he wants away from the others. Look what he did in 2 months....next year he won't have to "steal" recruits from Wisconsin or MSU or anyone else....they will already be in his fold before the others get a shot at losing them.



Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:02 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

ogrelxxv...I respect the parallel you are trying to draw...but the list of felons and clowns you provide really doesn't draw comparison here as Meyer has done nothing illegal, whereas the others were found to be guilty of rule/law breaking...not a fair comparison.



Since: Sep 19, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:59 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Wrong.  That's not what he is saying.  Meyer hasn't done anything wrong to this point.  These are all accusations from coaches that are whining because some of their recruits jumped ship for Meyer.

Meyer has had success everywhere he has gone and there is a reason for that.  He was accused by Lane Kiffin for recruiting violations and those turned out to be false so don't condemn the man based on some sour grapes over lost recruits.



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:58 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Not sure what the complaining is about as there are no details given that would cause anyone any pause here.  If this is just Meyer selling his program, then so be it.  If he is lying to kids, then he should be called out on that, but I do not hear anything related to that.  Kids have every right to change their minds, and many of them do on signing day.  LSU lost a couple at the last minute, but there is nothing anyone can do about that.  Sell your program as best you can, evaluate the kids properly, and you will have a good class.  Meyer did a great job with recruiting this year and should be commended for that.  Kids know there is no bowl game next season, and still they signed on. 



Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:58 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I am a Bucks fan, so of course this will come across as bias.  I have huge respect for Coaches Bielema and Dantonio, they are great coaches and run terrific programs and they represent the Conference well...but let's not turn this into a huge issue in year one.  Like Frank Sinatra, Meyer is doing it "My Way", and that way has garnered success in the past.  It's not illegal, it's a competition and a business...so don't fault a guy for sticking with a blueprint for success.  "If it ain't broken, then don't fix it..."



Since: Dec 24, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:46 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.


So the lesson here is that you should do anything to win and ethics counts for nothing.  Barry Bonds, Ben Johnson, John Calipari, Rosie Ruiz, Tonya Harding...all should be celebrated for doing whatever it takes to win in their own way, right?



Since: Sep 30, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:42 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Can't stand Ohio State, but I respect Meyer and his ability to recruit.  If the other teams in the league feel threatened, they should....learn a lesson, its not a done deal until it is inked. 


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