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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Since: Nov 24, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 10:27 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Dantonio crying foul when that lardass coach at scUM flipped a 5-star OL recruit away from OSU last June.


Umm, he was a commit to Dirty Jim, when he was FIRED for illegal acts and cheating he saw this as an opportunity to explore his options. MAybe he saw UofM as a conteder for the B1G title and wanted a chance to play in the B1G title game and Bol game next year. If Dirty Jim didnt cheat, maybe he would have been a ohio guy still. He flipped himself.

ohio was fortunate for a sick scandal to get all of PSU prized guys. Im glad Cryer is making so many friends in the B1G.




Since: Sep 29, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 10:26 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

For Mr. Dantonio and Balding Brett to jump in and take shots at Urban Meyer shows how low they have to stoop to try to keep their fans happy. Brett talked a lot of S*it by saying that it was no longer the big two in the Big 10. How wrong he was! As much as I hate the U of M congrats to Brady Hoke and his staff for putting togther a nice recruiting class. As for OSU, all Urban did was take back what was rightfully his. This is the STATE OF OHIO, get out of our state or plan on getting smacked in the mouth. Shame on you Mark for not knowing better, dont come prancing down here talking crap about our program when you were once a part of it. Telling hiyoung men that we are on a down cycle, and they need a more "stable" program. We are consistanly a top 10 team in the nation because our high schools produce talent, and we intend to keep that talent within our state lines. Oh yeah Michigan and OSU had 13 players rated in the top 150... the rest of the Big 10... 0 (looks kinda like a doughnut to me) Good luck this year Brett, keep talkign crap about THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY and plan on consistently getting a smack down!



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 10:21 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

The most shame is to Delany who stands by and does absolutely nothing.


Shaney, Jim Delany does nothing because Urban Meyer did not break any B1G rules.  As far as Meyer is concerned, the day he signed his contract he began recruiting as if it was a clean slate.  And why shouldn't he approach it that way?  Now that OSU had a permanent Head Coach as opposed to an Interim Head Coach, it changed the recruiting dynamics...it was a new ballgame.  A handful of kids jumped at the opportunity.  It is no different than other B1G coaches who used Tressel's resignation as an excuse to go after OSU recruits.  Funny, but I sure didn't hear Bielema or Dantonio crying foul when that lardass coach at scUM flipped a 5-star OL recruit away from OSU last June.

But to be fair, I do feel for you Penn St fans.  It has to be frustrating to watch the impact of losing JoePa and that horrendous Sandusky scandal decimate your recruiting class.



Since: Apr 11, 2010
Posted on: February 3, 2012 10:13 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

You have got to be kidding me.  A verbal commitment is a way to guarantee a player a scolarship until the school that they really want to play for comes calling.  If you want a player bad enough you better be sitting in their kitchen on signing day or Meyer will do it for you.  Noone really wants to play in Michigan or Wisconsin anyway.



Since: Nov 6, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 10:10 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Urban Meyer left Florida because he had no control of his players and his talent pipeline was dropping as the spread offense gimmick is good until the other teams understand it and defend it.  Players find you do not make it to the NFL as easy with a spread offense as a Pro Offense so the talent pipeline drops after 2-3 years.

As for your derogatory comments about Muschamp... shame on you.  Especially coming from a Domer.  You have nothing to talk about... being irrelevant for the past 15-20 years as the Gators racked up 3 NC's.  Muschamp pulled in a concensus top 5 recruiting class and will need tsome time to fix the mess Meyer created at Florida, but we are still relevant and will be back soon.  As you said "You can bank on that." 

No doubt the Zooker did us good, but Meyer destroyed tream moral, talent and any discipline.  Muschamp must rebuild all of that... Six players could not take the new level of disciplin=e and transferred, one got kicked off and said "If Meyer was still the coach I would still be on the team"  Tough Muschamp just said Bye bye...

A good strong team inside and outside is built, not something Meyer is capable of doing.  Good luck OSU...you will need it.



Since: Apr 28, 2011
Posted on: February 3, 2012 9:59 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Well said!  If the other coaches think Meyer broke the rules, then turn him in.  If not, shut yer yaps, you got out-recruited.



Since: Jan 26, 2010
Posted on: February 3, 2012 9:53 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Face it Big Ten...CHEATER U  will always be CHEATER U....and hopefully justice is served when theee wicked suckeyes don't win anything from being cheaters and doing things immorally, or as Bielema said ILLEGALLY!
The most shame is to Delany who stands by and does absolutely nothing. This pinheaded dictator of the B1G needs to be removed since he allows TOSU and Michigan to do and get what ever they want....why are you so corrupt and in the pocket of these two wicked universities Delany??? Is there something you or these two corrupt schools are hiding???



Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 9:41 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

This coming from a guy who roots for a team that has been relevant since maybe 1990??  ND isn't irrelevant.  Not at all.  Just haven't won enough.  Still put more guys in the NFL than just about any other school, but you won't ever see me post that the lack of winning is inexcusable so basically the haters only argue with themselves.  Any real ND fan knows and admits the losing has been embarrassing.  It's not all about the talent.  It's been there many years.  The coaching has been pretty awful.  If you want to talk underachieving....I'd say you could pretty much say that about most of Spurrier's teams.  3 NC's in last 22 years is good, but as far as longevity and relevance on a National landscape, no one comes near USC or ND so just deal with it.  Will Muschamp won't be playing for any titles any time soon.  You can bank on that.  Thank the Zooker for your 3 NC's....he pretty much recruited those teams.  Dude could recruit, just wasn't a good coach.  But, the one good guy that UF hired.




Since: Feb 3, 2012
Posted on: February 3, 2012 9:38 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

2 words for you  Dantonio & Bielema.  "Recruit Better"!!!!  Thats why your team blows.  Was Meyer supposed to lay down and let you win over recruits?



Since: Apr 28, 2010
Posted on: February 3, 2012 9:36 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

As an Alabama fan I was never impressed with Meyer as a coach or a recruiter.   UF recruited well under both of Meyer's predessors Spurrier and Zook.   Gainsville is an easy place to lure a recruit as is Columbus.   Problem is that Meyer does it without class.   There were the same feelings about Meyer in the SEC as there is in Big 10 now.   His on the field performance in his last two years at UF were pathetic.  Without Mullen and his original staff he never would have had an undefeated season at Utah and two NC's at UF.  Alabama  hated to see Meyer leave the SEC because he was an easy coach to beat and after his assistant losses turned UF into a non elite program.   Whereas his record against the SEC East was impressive (81% wins) his record against the SEC West was 57% and against Auburn, LSU and Alabama cumulatively it was 34%.     OSU made a terrible hire.   Meyer will never be a Tressel in success although he will match him in honesty.


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