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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Comments

Since: Sep 20, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 9:33 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

So all these coaches kept a respectful distance from OSU verbals while the program was in upheaval and Tressel was being shown the door?  Riiiiiiiiight.



Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 9:24 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Meyer doesn't have "down" years.   Mark my words the Bucks will win at least 10 games next year have you seen that cupcake of a schedule and add in the fact that Penn St. and Wisconsin will be in down years it all adds up.  Hell they have a longshot at running the table and being ineligible for a bowl wouldn't that be something?
 



Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 9:20 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

As an Ohio State fan and a University of Cincinnati fan and alum the last person I want to hear crying foul play and unethical is Mark Dantonio.  This guy left UC for Michigan State (no problem with that) and at the same time took at least 3 to 4 of the guys he had recruited to UC and had verbally committed with him.  So, on one hand it's "UNETHICAL" for Urban to take a guy that had previously committed to the Buckeyes (Se'Von Pittman) FROM OHIO when OSU and Tressel were having a rough go of it but foul and unethical when he takes guys committed to UC and OSU when he leaves one institution then takes full opportunity to sway a kid when the Buckeyes are down and out with tattoogate???  GET OUT OF HERE Dantonio you're a great coach and I respect you as such but quit crying and move on with life we live in America baby and unless you have a signed document then it is meaningless.  Not to mention the fact how bout the signed contracts these coaches have at the lesser schools and the players they recruit there then up and leave for better jobs after these kids have committed 4 to 5 years of their lives to them with signed letters of intents.  I just find these coaches to be absolute freaking hypocrites when it comes to these things and the rights of the players themselves.  What's good for the goose is good for the gander so man up and grow some balls.



Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:41 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Bulemia needs to shut up and learn how to coach especially after two straight Rose Bowl losses.



Since: Jun 5, 2010
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:41 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

The Gloves need to come off so that they can reach into their pockets and pull out money to pay these so-called "recruits".  I am sure Meyer has brought some other creative ways to pay the players besides cars and tattoos. 



Since: Oct 12, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:39 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I don't think Urban said anything negative about the two well respected programs. these ohio kids want to play for the team they grew up rooting for. in ohio you have 8 Div 1 FBS schools(Granted 6 are mac) and 1 monster of a rival with a good fan base just 30 miles north of the border as well as nd to the west.  to get recruited by any of if not all of the schools is an honor. but osu/mich/nd are the top three and outsiders like wisc, mich st, purdue, ind, penn st. will always be put on the back burner.
 



Since: Oct 12, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:33 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

good point. not to mention the two 4/5star caliber guys that jumped ship to brady hoke last year.



Since: Nov 22, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:21 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

They did have 2 staffs Pitt and wisconsin.




Since: Nov 20, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:19 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Please allow me to chime in as the "voice of reason" in this silly argument.  First to the fans of the other 11 Big Ten schools NOT located in the state of Ohio, Get over the fact that Urban Meyer has recruiting experience from his days at Florida.  The way to combat THAT is to LEARN TO RECRUIT.  Plain and simple.  NO team in the Big Ten has been able to recruit like Ohio State has over the last several years.  Even "The Vest" was able to recruit at a higher level than Bielema, Dantonio or ANY other Big Ten coach.....OK, so Tressel made some outrageous promises that were actually delivered and NOW the school is paying THAT price, but it gave them an edge.  If I was Bret Bielema, Bo Pelini, Bill O'Brien, Mark Dantonio or whomever, I would be asking my recruits deciding between their school and OSU, how do you know that Meyer is going to be there for you when you are facing much bigger issues like, where to go to graduate school, how do I best prepare myself for the NFL, or whatever needs to be answered AFTER your college days are OVER.  Meyer might be at OSU for decades, we don't know.  BUT, it's all about SELLING your school when going out to recruit and for ALL Big Ten coaches, the gloves NEED to come off.  Quit acting like pansies.




Since: Nov 22, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 8:03 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

As a Steeler fan most of our front line are Gators. Maybe you need a dose of reality.



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