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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Since: Sep 14, 2010
Posted on: February 3, 2012 3:40 am
 

OSU Fans Enjoy meyer Now

If you OSU fans have any class at all you better enjoy mervin meyer  now. Like at UF he landed signed boat load of players, won games, won the SEC, won the crystal ball. But by the time he crawled out of Florida a big part of the class fans of UF had had enough of his dirty ways from loving his thugs, to cussing out reporters for basically nothing, to kicking a player off his team because he sent his gf a text that said ( TIME TO DIE BITCH ), meyer kicked him off and said he did it because he had a daughter and wouldnt want anyone to do that to her. But after a 3-4 game losing streak he brought the text boy back. Meyer is a slime ball and it wont take long for people at OSU to see it. If all you want to do is win suck up to the scum bag. But if you have any class you will be very sick of his ways in less than 4 years. He will sell him wife and the daughter that he said he loved so much for a win. The other coaches need not blame this on the SEC. Mr Saban wins and wins big but he will not allow the kind of stuff meyer will nor will he cover up for the thugs. Now UF has a class coach that had as good a recuting class as mervin and he will run UF with class. You people at OSU enjoy the sorry azz POS.



Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 3:24 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I think Meyer is going to change the B10, but I'm not yet sure if it's for the better or the worse--we'll see.



Since: Apr 16, 2009
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:30 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I think you should change your...errrrr "Mine" and blow yourself up for not knowing how to spell mind. Classic OSU edumacation. 



Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 1:16 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Right. Right. Right. The argument that you're not jealous because you always take the moral high road. Wink 

It's cool. It's cool. I get it. I get it - nice act, I mean what are you going to say? Since Urban's probably the best recruiter on the planet (just when you thought the school up North was gaining ground in Ohio) not named Nick Saban. and by far already the best in the B1G, I guess that "moral high road" is really the only argument you have if you want to continue whining and falsely accusing Urban of being a cheater because he's able to pull in recruits you wish your team would. You, however, don't want to sound like a Miffedagain Whimperine, so instead of saying - Wah! Wah! Wah! I wish he wasn't as good at what he does as he is! Wah! Wah! Wah! You instead replace it with -

(Read in Brittish accent and with nose in the air) Well you see, I'm a civil, intelligent, upstanding member of society whose morality is far advanced beyond winning such a brutal and violent game as football, oh what monkey-business is it to win at all cost? Such a mentality is below me - No! No! I'd rather take 100 winless years than ever ask an in-state kid who's previously committed elsewhere if he still had any interest in coming to his in-state school. The sinful, conniving, horrendous, insidious act of an 18-year-old-boy, excuse me, 18-year-old-MAN, changing his mind! Oh woe and oh what is this world coming to when this snake of a man at Ohio dosen't recognize the gentlemen agreements of Midwestern football!

A.K.A. That's what this sounds like:

Goose49- That's simply not true. I knew that when Lloyd Carr was replaced by RichRod we were in for some stormy times ahead (ethically speaking). I would rather have 10 more seasons of honest but underperforming football with Carr than even 1 NC with RichRod and his methods. See, the people in Big Ten country are different than SEC folks. We aren't "win at all costs" and recruiting like Meyer is might work, but it comes at a price. Nick Saban is respected as a coach, but everyone knows he has very low moral standards. A Big 10 coach wouldn't quit in the midst of a season to make himself available for another job, either (Bobby Petrino). 

Somebody would do well to remind these sleazy scumbags that football is still just a game, and trading honor for BCS championships is the wrong example for our youth.

 

You must be a member of the New Oreleans SAINTS!

Just what is it Urban guilty of exactly? Oh yeah, he got two Ohio kids - Kyle Dodson (Cleveland Hights High School) and Se'Vonn Pittman (McKinley High Scool in Canton, Ohio) to decommit from Wisconsin and Michigan State respectively. Hmm... Why would kids from Ohio want to go to Ohio State? Beats me? The truth is both Pittman and Dodson were thought to be stong Ohio State leans, locks even when Tressel was still in charge. After Tressel-Gate the players decided to go elsewhere, but when the university hired the prestigious Meyer two Ohio kids saw a new and perhaps even better situation at the school they had grown up rooting for. What do Miffedagain fans have to say about Dennis Norfleet, a four-star running back out of Detroit shockingly spurning the University of Cincinnati on National Signing Day, and instead faxing in his L.O.I. to that school up North? Norfleet was the star, the gem of the UC recruiting class this year. Is coach Hoke not constrained to the same high gentlemenly Midwestern standards when going after a kid from a Big East school, but a Midwest school none the less? In essence Norfleet spurning Cincy for that school up North is the same thing as Pittman and Dodson spurning Michigan State and Wisconsin for Ohio State. An in-state kid who changed their mind and wanted to play for the school they had grown up loving and rooting for. To villainize Meyer for the same thing that Hoke himself has done is a hypocritical double-standard.

elgecko: Let's be real and say how you feel - The Miffedagain Whimperines were kicking the Bucks butts in recruiting this year until Urban came along and now you're upset because after being dominated for the past decade by tOSU you were hoping it was your turn, but now you realize that with Meyer at Ohio State things aren't going to be as easy as you hoped.

Here's a reality, no let's call it a morality check. Most Ohio State fans are (believe it or not) happy that Brady Hoke is looking like he'll salvage things up North and make that team respectible again. Why? Because it's more fun to compete with Michigan when they're not playing at the level of a good MAC school (you're the ying to our yang and vice versa). Now Ohio State has a new coach and he's a living legend and a great recruiter. But instead of showing your adversary respect you heap empty insults and false claims against him because you are in fact (whether you admit it or not) jealous. Where's the moral high road in that? Or do you only go that route when it's conducive to your arguments?

Real morality is the fact that I was psyched that Michigan was back up there in recruiting rankings this year. Here's to another 10-year war, let's do it! May the best team win! But please, save all of the fake and entitled "we're better than that in big ten country" mumbo jumbo for the birds - come on - please, I mean the transparency of it is incredibly evident and weak.




Since: Sep 30, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 1:13 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I think Meyer is going to change the Big Ten in more ways that just affect OSU.  With Meyer joining the Bucks, and Nebraska joining last year the Big Ten needed a major shake up.  I cant wait to see the results in the next few years.  Lets not foget with Brady has already done with Michigan in his first year.  Go Bucks.



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 1:01 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Michigan stole a recruit from Cincinnati late and Bielema stole one from Ole Miss late. These guys are a complete embarrassment to the Big Ten. With wimps like these two clowns, it's no wonder this conference hasn't won since Ohio State did it nine+ years ago. When Jim Tressel or Brady Hoke lost recruits, at least they didn't whine like little girls.




Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 12:31 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

More NCAA santions for Florida? Since when did they get any sactions beacause of Meyer? I have not read that anywhere.




Since: Feb 3, 2012
Posted on: February 3, 2012 12:26 am
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Since: Sep 16, 2011
Posted on: February 3, 2012 12:23 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

The fact that Meyer kept Ohio kids in Ohio is great. Maybe Michigan State and Wisconsin should try to do the same. The fact is that both Michigan schools build their programs off of Ohio kids, Michigan I believe has 9 recruits this year and Michigan State 7 so they should stop complaining.



Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 12:21 am
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer


So its ok when a school from B1G like Michigan steals a kid from UC, but when a  coach from the B1G steals from another B1G coach its bad.  I dont really understand why they are mad. I didnt read all the post so I dont know if anybody else mentioned this.


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