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Report: five Frogs tested positive for marijuana

Posted on: February 16, 2012 2:08 pm

Posted by Jerry Hinnen

According to a report in the Fort Worth Star-Telegramrumors of 60-to-80 TCU football players failing a random drug test have been grossly exaggerated.

In police documents filed as part of the campus-wide investigation that led to the arrests of four Horned Frog players Wednesday, now-former Frogs Tanner Brock and Devin Johnson are quoted telling undercover officers that as many as 82 TCU players tested positive in the Feb. 1 test. But sources told the Star-Telegram Thursday that, in fact, only five of the 102 Horned Frog players failed the screening, with another 11 players showing trace amounts within the test's margin for error. 86 players' tests came back negative.

Although some of the drugs sold to officers during the sweep included prescription drugs, cocaine, and acid, the only substance found in the five positive tests was marijuana. Though Brock (pictured) told officers he had failed the test, it was not immediately clear if the four arrested (and dismissed) players had produced positives or not.

Having been administered on National Signing Day, the test was reportedly ordered by head coach Gary Patterson after a recruit declined a TCU offer over his concerns of widespread drug use on the team. But an anonymous former player told the Star-Telegram that marijuana is far less prevalent among the Frogs is far less than the arrests and Brock's and Johnson's statements would imply.

"There was definitely a small group of guys using weed but nothing more than that," the source said.

Ask Patterson, and he'll likely tell you that even five positives is five too many. But after the embarrassment of Wednesday's headlines and the details found in the police affidavits, Thursday's report -- if accurate -- puts the ratio of Frogs using marijuana (4.9 percent) at a rate far lower than the accepted ratio of total college students who use marijuana, and should be one for Patterson to be thankful for.

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Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: February 17, 2012 9:57 am

Report: five Frogs tested positive for marijuana

Thunderdan: So which is it?  Is Patterson a jerk for not having a press conference and standing up for his clean players, or is there a massive cover-up of the true 82 player-potheads afoot?  You talk pretty good out of both sides of your mouth. 

Why don't you WAIT and listen to how the investigation unfolds before you start making a bunch of ASSumptions about whats going on and what people would do.  The police have been very clear that they may not be finished making arrests and that the investigation is ongoing.  The smartest thing Patterson can do is stay out of the investigation, let it run its course, and then deal with the aftermath.  Just because YOU don't like the way he's handling it doesn't matter.  Who the heck are you? Everybody on that team knows that no matter who steps up in front of a camera and tries to defend the program, the school, the clean players - whoever - people like YOU are still goignto tear them down, call them liars, whatever.  Its a no-win situation.

Since: Nov 24, 2009
Posted on: February 17, 2012 9:52 am

Report: five Frogs tested positive for marijuana

A pot test in the ohio athletic program means testing how much you can smoke in a hour....Jess Sayin'

Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: February 16, 2012 11:09 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 16, 2012 10:48 pm

Report: five Frogs tested positive for marijuana

It's pot.  Not HGH, not steriods, not performance enhancing anything.  Alcohol is far more physically damaging than cannibis.  That is a fact.  The fact that it is illegal is the worst part of this, not the fact that a few college kids smoked a litte weed.  

What you and other potheads think means nothing, actually what you think means less than nothing.  The bottom line is pot is illegal, and these kids knew when they agreed to the terms of their scholarships they weren't allowed to do any drugs.  

Whether it should be legal or not means nothing... that's not what this story is about.   

Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: February 16, 2012 10:05 pm

Report: five Frogs tested positive for marijuana

Look Thunderdan, they disclosed the results, it's right in the article. Whether those are real or not, is another topic.

You don't need to take paragraphs to explain the fact that yes, it is a cover up.

What else do you expect man? Imagine how they felt when the news came out 80 players get high? 

Since: May 25, 2007
Posted on: February 16, 2012 9:58 pm

Report: five Frogs tested positive for marijuana

Political arguments about marijuana aside, this story does not pass the smell test, pun intended. So Patterson is so worried about drug use on his team after a recruit told him he didn't choose TCU due to drug use amongst the players that he decides to spring a random test on his team February 1st. Then, two weeks later, four players are arrested for being, in the words of the TCU brass themselves "drug dealers." Of those players, they have told the undercover cops that between 60-82 players failed the test. Mind you, when these guys gave up this info to the undercover cops, they had no idea they were talking to undercover cops, which leads you to wonder why two of them would seperately lie about how rampant use on the team was. Then a day after these four players are arrested and all this info comes out an "anonymous source" says there were only 5 guys that tested positive. Hmm. So, assuming that the four "drug dealers" were amongst the positive tests there was only one other player on the whole team who tested positive. Excuse me, but that is not very believeable to me. Kind of makes you wonder who this "anonymous source" is doesn't it.

Logically if you are the TCU President/Patterson/the AD or whomever and there were only 5 guys that tested positive, wouldn't you come out and say that on the record in an attempt to clear your programs name? Wouldn't you, on the record, say that there were a few bad apples that have been eradicated? Why does it have to be an anonymous source? Is it because they are not allowed to disclose the results of the tests and how many positive there were and if so, doesn't that make this "anonymous source" uncredible because they are disclosing information in violation of the privacy of the players?

If I'm Patterson and the media is reporting that 60-80% of my team failed a drug test and I know it isn't true, I'm manning up for my players, calling a press conference, calling the allegations patently false, stomping my fist on a podium and calling the two former players who said 60-80% of the team failed the test a bunch of disgusting, lying, pieces of garbage. If someone is talking sh*t about my family and I know it isn't true, and I can prove it, I'm not sitting quiet. And frankly, if the 60-80% isn't true and I am some clean kid on the football team whose family and friends are reading national stories essentially saying that I am probably using drugs, I would have little respect for my coach for not clearing my name.     

Since: Oct 15, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2012 9:56 pm

Report: five Frogs tested positive for marijuana

Got hand it to TCU for a quick mobilization of an obvious cover-up.

Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: February 16, 2012 9:40 pm
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Since: Dec 12, 2007
Posted on: February 16, 2012 9:31 pm

Report: five Frogs tested positive for marijuana

ECU Football has not reach the level of TCU but I'm greatful  EC does not have this negative press.  Not hating on the Horned Frogs though.  Its unfortunate the behaviors of a few affecting the reputation of a rising football program.

Since: Dec 24, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2012 8:09 pm
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