Boise inks deal with UT Martin in 2013

@boise4life- I'm not a Boise hater. I've told you that. There are plenty of BSU fans still here they just know what comes around goes around and knows exactly the reason posts like mine soonershel Spinkiller GatorLass etc exist. It's NOT to hate on Boise St. So the other BSU fans knowing that don't bother because they know why there are posts and threads like this. I have no beef with you and no like you previously mentioned I don't have a problem with another BSU fan on the site. I do have a problem with anyone that only posts negative about the Gators and/or the SEC. I'm not talking about saying something negative in a polite way or talking facts. It being a jerk and cutting them down or doing nothing but every post talking bad about the SEC. Yes I'm a conference homer. I can cut down Georgia or LSU etc or a fan of the SEC can cut down other SEC teams but noone else can every post they make. Not that it's a big deal to those that do, but again, that's why threads like this exist is all. It's not against BSU.

@smiles- no sir you certainly did not answer my questions, my good friend. You know you have an agenda bashing the SEC. That's almost all you post about. To state facts and move on is one thing. To do it in every post is bashing and you know it. I asked you more than once to answer my questions but you didn't. It's hard to argue with you when you have an agenda and you ignore questions others feel is pertinent.

No, sir, I just didn't answer your questions in the way you wanted, they were answered, every jot and title.  Boise would love to play anyone, but no, they aren't just coming to your place, that's not fair, nor is it the way a top 25 team does business.  Boise has never said that they will play anyone, anywhere, to do so would make Boise like some low end Sun Belt team, and simply reinforce teams, like yours, who show greed and cowardice in their scheduling decisions.  We Boise fans want to see good games, not idiotic shams in which schools like yours constantly line up cupcakes and then whine about how schools like mine "never play anyone."  How in the hell are they suppposed to?

Again, answer me.

Has Florida left the state, ever in the last 20 years to play an OOC game?
Do they not bring in 2 or 3 bad teams for easy home games, each and every year?
Why did every single SEC team play a FCS (1aa) team?  Heck, I think Miss. St. has two of em this year.  Is this true or false?
Are the overwhelming majority of these games at home or on the road?
How many of the 55 scheduled OOC games this year are intersectional games against highly regarded programs? 

Other than a few yearly rivalries, you can count them on one hand.

Clean up your own closet.  Damn right, I slam the SEC, because they are the biggest cowards in football when it comes to the only games that the individual schools control, the OOC part of the season.  And your school, sir, is one of the worst.  I'm not hating, I'm stating facts. 

And since you cannot refute the facts, you stoop to insults.

Whose fault is that?

Clean up what? Youre the one that's in here running your mouth over the years about nothing but antiSEC crap. So when you get called out you try to turn it around like you're the victim now. Priceless!!!! Just as you say you can and on one hand the Gators hard OOC games over the years we can do the same for BSU's entire schedule the last 15 years. You try to bully people lol. You didn't answer a damn thing then say you did and then change the subject. Typical smilie boy.

Love it, can't (or won't) anwer my questions, so it's right back to the same old same old. 

Let's review, it's not SEC crap, it is SEC facts about how and who they schedule.  You haven't refuted my statements, so they must be true.  And let's discuss BSU's entire schedule, shall we?

BSU only became division one in 1996.  BSU is in one of those low end conferences, they don't really have a choice in who they play.  Florida, on the other hand, could play anyone they want.  Boise does play weak teams, they are required to.  And when they set up their OOC games, they always travel to one top end team for a game, and even take on the "bad" teams in home and home arrangements, unlike your Gators who haven't left the state in 21 years.

Florida has a budget of $105 million, Boise has a budget of just under $30 million.  Florida could afford to play anyone, but chooses to hire punching bags instead.

Boise has the best winning record in college football.  Florida is an outstanding program that is not doing so well lately.  Even with the 3 gimmie wins last year, they only won 7 games, if you include the home game bowl game.

But for all that money, all that talent, all those top paid coaches, all those fervent fans, J. Foley can do no better than a yearly parade of three bottom dwellers in the only three scheduling choices that he really has.

Is this true or false?

That is not hate, that is not slamming the SEC.  It is stating a fact.  Let's review....

Florida plays cupcakes OOC, and deliberately schedules them.  Florida refuses to travel.  The SEC has the weakest OOC schedule of any major conference, they play more FCS teams, more home games against questionable opponents, and play fewer true road games than anyone. 

Prove me wrong.

Why are any of you suprised by this revelation.  Boise St has always played FCS schools.  In 2009 the 14-0 Broncos played FCS UC Davis.  In 08 against Idaho St, Weber St in 07, CS Sacramento in 06 and  Portland St in 05.  I do find it funny that Boise St fans are always on here complaining about how all the big schools practice this and actully have the nerve to get defensive when their team is found guilty of the same thing.   Boise St is one of the biggest offenders of this practice.      

lol.   Whose OOC schedule is this for the past three seasons?

Kent State, North Texas, Georgia Southern, PSU, Georgia State, Duke, San Jose State, PSU, Chatanooga, North Texas, FIU, VT.   

or this daunting OOC gauntlet going back to the 2002 season?


Northwestern State, Western Kentucky, McNeese State, UL-Monroe, LA-Lafayette, Tulane, LA-Tech, Appy State, Troy, North Texas, Tulane, Troy, Middle Tennessee, Tulane, LA-Tech, LA-Lafayette, Tulane, Fresno State, North Texas, Appy State, Arkansas State, Troy, LA-Monroe, Wetern Illinois, LA-Tech, Citadel, Miami OH, LA-Lafayette.



You are making the case of hypocracy of Boise fans argument. Why is it so bad for an SEC team to play La Tech and San Jose St, when Boise plays them every year.

Boise fans will try to lead you to believe that they play some gauntlet OOC schedule


This is COMPLETELY FALSE.....Boise State plays OOC schedules no different than "Power" teams like Alabama (1 "good" team had 3 bums), the difference is Boise's cupcake parade continues into their conference schedule

let's look at Boise's OOC schedules since 2005 

2011- Georgia, Toledo, Tulsa, Fresno State, and Nevada

2010- Virginia Tech, Wyoming, Oregon State, Toledo

2009- Oregon, Miami Ohio, Bowling Green, UC Davis (FCS)

2008- Idaho State (FCS), Bowling Green, Oregon, Southern Miss

2007- Weber State (FCS), Washington, Wyoming, Southern Miss

2006- Cal State Sacramento (FCS), Oregon State, Wyoming, Utah

2005- Georgia, Oregon State, Bowling Green, Portland State (FCS)

5/7 years there was an FCS team on the schedule

they did play 2 BCS conferences teams in a year on 2 occasions, however both times the 2nd team was Oregon State, who went 5-7 and 5-6 in the years they played them 

like said.....not any much of a difference between Boise's OOC schedules and "power teams" OOC schedules....only difference is the "power" teams played in BCS conferences and faced a challenge during the conference season.....Boist's cupcake march continued into the conference schedule 

You missed an important point.  Boise plays most of those games as home and homes or on the road.

Big difference.

So let's look at the 2011 schedule.  Every team Boise played OOC went to a bowl the year previous.  Every one except Fresno (who has always been regarded as a top nonAQ), was in the running to win their respective conference championships.  And 3 of those games were on the road.

Big difference.

In 2010, Boise went on the road 2300 miles and beat a major conference champion in their back yard, just like they did in 2011.  Even the "weak" teams they played were respectable.  Lowly Wyoming was leading Texas in the 2nd quarter and had defeated Virginia and Tennessee in previous years.  Toledo beat Purdue if you look it up.  Oregon St. had a bad record, because, unlike most majors, they played TCU, Louisville, and Boise in their OOC, not exactly like the cowardly SEC schools tend to schedule, is it?  Heck, a lot of SEC schools don't play one school that good, much less 3!

Yes, Boise plays a lot of nonAQ's, well, duh, because they ARE one.  Here's another thing you geniuses always miss.  When they play bad teams, they do what any good team does, beat them by a big margin.  The only difference, they do it both at home AND on the road.

They'd love to play more top teams, including yours.  So how about it, how about a game, one in our house, one in yours.

Whatsa matter?  Are you too chicken, or too greedy?  Put your money where your mouth is, or would your school rather eat cupcakes?

I've said it a million times....if Boise wants big time teams to schedule home and homes with them.....they need to get a bigger stadium, no one wants to travel to nowhere Idaho to play in a 37,000 seat stadium and likely lose money.

I've said it a million times....if Boise wants big time teams to schedule home and homes with them.....they need to get a bigger stadium, no one wants to travel to nowhere Idaho to play in a 37,000 seat stadium and likely lose money.

And you'd be wrong a million times.  No one loses a dime in a home and home series.  Each team keeps its gate and pays the expenses plus a small fee (usually 250k or so) to the other team.  A bigger stadium would mean a bigger home take, but neither side "loses money."  The reasons that the bigs won't travel is not that they'd lose money, they wouldn't.

The real reason is "no one wants to travel to 'nowhere' Idaho and get humiliated by a team that's better than they are."  The 37,000 is an excuse, not a reason.  Besides, in a few years, the stadium will be 55,000, and they'll still have a ton of excuses.  No, if they can find some dumb patsie willing to play them at home and politely lose by four touchdowns, far better that than a trip anywhere.

Heck, most SEC schools wouldn't even travel to a major BCS venue with 100,000 seats.  They'd rather play East Undershirt State at home.

Next.

No Smiles you are full of it, a team like Oklahoma would lose money going to boise st. Now if they jump up ti 55,000 that will be a differant story. your wrong because one of the Sooner coachs wrote this on the net a while back when it was going around about Boise st running there big mouths about playing any body any place.

That would be a very interesting link. Sooner can you
post that for us.

 No, if they can find some dumb patsie willing to play them at home and politely lose by four touchdowns, far better that than a trip anywhere

you mean like Boise? and their game with UT Martin?


 

I've stated repeatedly that I oppose bringing in UT Martin.

Here is the problem.  Otherwise, Boise will play 7 road games and only 5 home games.  You can't pay for the stadium expansion doing that.  Got any better suggestions, Einstein?

How about your team giving up one of those home games and doing a home and home with Boise?  I didn't think so.

Seems like you have all the excuses in the world for Boise scheduling cupcakes, but bash other schools for doing it.

How about your team giving up one of those home games and doing a home and home with Boise?  I didn't think so.

Ohio State is busy with home and homes with Cal, Va Tech, Oklahoma and North Carolina in coming years

Ohio State is clearly afraid to play out of conference games against good teams on the road........considering theyve played @ USC @ Texas and @ Miami in the recent past 

"Even Wyoming was leading Texas in the 2nd Quarter."  I have heard it all now, in regards to building a team up.  Along those lines, UGA held LSU to zero first downs in the first half of the SEC Championship game.  WOOHOO!!!!

See how that sounds?  Lord... Smles, you really are reaching.  When you want to compare schedules compare schedules.  But this OOC thing has got to stop.  Some years, some schools play good OOC.  Some years they don't.  Some schools trend to easy OOC schedules more often than not.  Others will put their balls on the line and travel once in awhile and play equal competiotion.  It ebbs and flows.  Sometimes the name isn't as good as its once renowned reputation.  Other times, no names are playing above their reputation.  I just don' get your pissing on everybody.  But for you to piss on all these other programs for playing what hopefully is one, at most, FCS teams, whether it is to play the roster or to help an in-state team, is just plain silly.  And this goes for all who whine about such.  

A schedule is comprised of two parts that need to be taken as a whole: the conference games, and the out of conference games.  One can admire those teams that play harder schedules, and diss those who play weaker.  But the reality is, many of those teams playing weak OOC games also play some pretty dang tough IC games.

I don't know about all of you all, but when i went to UGA in '82, I had no idea what CFB could be like.  I was at a small school my freshman year, Northern Arizona, as I chose them over Arizona State, and moved to Athens after my father passed away.  I learned what big time CFB was all about as I got to witness Herschel's last year.  I enjoyed going to the games and the craziness that enveloped Athens during that time.  But I don't expect a NC evey year.  I don't expect an SEC every year.  I know CFB changes often, as players move on, Coaches change and philosophies change.  It is what makes CFB great.  If you get the chance to experience the highs that can be asociated with it, Lord, it is some of the greatet feelings in the world in regards to sports.  But, to sit here and whine about teams coming to your house, etc. just seems so trivial.

A schedule is a schedule.  Boise travels so they can maintain a national exposure, plain and simple.  No one is turning in a Boise game to see them play their past IC games excpet for maybe one game.  Boise wants more, so they go play where they will be on TV in a national market.  Georgia traveling to Boise on September "pick a date" is not going to generate the same audience Boise St. to Atlanta to kick off the season where a ravenous CFB crowd is chomping at the bit to watch anything CFB.   A filled Dome in a major market just has more energy than say an Alabama going to Boise, ID and playing on a blue field.  The nation won't care.  Excuse me, Alabama fans would care, but not coast to coast.  The energy just isn't there.  It might be a fine game, just not the same.

All this to say, it is what it is.  Teams change, Coaches move on and OOC games that sometimes are scheduled years in advance end up not being what was expected when they were inked.  Schedules are 12 games these days.  Most play at least 6 games at home, many 7, with a few folks playing 8(which I will never agree with), but it is what it is.

I'm sure I repeated myself, rambled on may points, and probably lost 90% of you after the first paragraph, but I am looking forward to CFB this year.  My team's OOC is not good.  Yes, it has one FCS, but it is a team we play every 4-5 years to help them out, as one of our great Coaches in the past, Erk Russell used to Coach there after his stint at UGA.  They are also not an awful team and run that crazy ass wishbone offense, so it isnt much fun.  BUt it helps the program out.  We play Georgia Tech every year, alternating home games.  That leaves us two games,  Sometimes we travel, sometimes we don't.  Usually, we have involved another decent team, sometimes BCS, but mostly tow more FBS programs.  It isn't awful.  This year just smells of easy, but it is what it is.  UGA did travel to ASU, Oklahoma State and Colorado, recently.  Yeah, they weren't top shelf, but they were travel dates and am proud of such.  Like I said, some years good, some years bad.  But, hey, that's me and hope many of you would try to enjoy the game more than you enjoy bashing teams over and over and over again throughout the year.  

That would be a very interesting link. Sooner can you
post that for us.


Can't stu1215 its on soonerscoop.com and you have to pay to get on that sight.

Seems like you have all the excuses in the world for Boise scheduling cupcakes, but bash other schools for doing it.


Thats the way Smiles allways is theSwamp15, thats all  he complains about is everybody OOC's when Boise OOC sucks as well.